Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

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Who will be elected US President in 2016?

Poll ended at Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:00 pm

Hillary Clinton
20
43%
Donald Trump
23
50%
someone else
2
4%
no one
1
2%
 
Total votes: 46

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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby cali_chile48 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:55 pm

Are you suggesting that I am Democrat? Think again.

It's not being a "sore loser" or a "cry baby" to observe that more than 40% of eligible voters did not vote, nor is it incorrect to point out that gerrymandering at the state level and various types of voter suppression are contrary to the spirit of a democracy, ie, the idea that everyone's opinion should be counted. These are tactics that modern day Republicans must resort to because they know they don't have popular majority support. Low voter turnout favors the conservative movement in the US. That has been been true for quite a long time.

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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby HybridAmbassador » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:58 pm

cali_chile48 wrote:Are you suggesting that I am Democrat? Think again.

It's not being a "sore loser" or a "cry baby" to observe that more than 40% of eligible voters did not vote, nor is it incorrect to point out that gerrymandering at the state level and various types of voter suppression are contrary to the spirit of a democracy, ie, the idea that everyone's opinion should be counted. These are tactics that modern day Republicans must resort to because they know they don't have popular majority support. Low voter turnout favors the conservative movement in the US. That has been been true for quite a long time.


Kilary lost due to probably all Sanders supporters did not vote for her.?
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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby jamie_m » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:30 pm

According to Killary, she lost because of the FBI.

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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby AHusband » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:02 pm

HybridAmbassador wrote:
cali_chile48 wrote:Are you suggesting that I am Democrat? Think again.

It's not being a "sore loser" or a "cry baby" to observe that more than 40% of eligible voters did not vote, nor is it incorrect to point out that gerrymandering at the state level and various types of voter suppression are contrary to the spirit of a democracy, ie, the idea that everyone's opinion should be counted. These are tactics that modern day Republicans must resort to because they know they don't have popular majority support. Low voter turnout favors the conservative movement in the US. That has been been true for quite a long time.


Kilary lost due to probably all Sanders supporters did not vote for her.?


She got a lot less votes than Obama. And it is Sander's voters that didn't vote for her (maybe even voted Trump) in the Rust Belt that cost her the election.

If they had been more enthusiastic about her, they would not have been on the fence to be influenced by the FBI shenanigans.

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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby Andres » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:52 pm

cali_chile48 wrote:It suggests that the extremely negative nature of the race, especially on the part of Trump, had the effect of suppressing voter turnout, which was part of their plan. The last thing in the world that the Republicans want is full participation by the electorate at the national level.

I doubt that was the entire cause.
There are other potential factors; example: There were probably many people who became disgusted and disillusioned with the political process when Bernie's campaign was unethically and immorally sabotaged. Many probably had the view that they could not morally vote for either candidate.
There are probably other reasons and paradigms.
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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby Britkid » Sun Nov 13, 2016 12:48 pm

Did the FBI win the election?
Let's look at the facts. I am going to use wikipedia here.
290-228 is the current elecctoral college margin that they are showing.
That's a different of 62, which means Hillary would have needed >31 that Trump won to covert to her.

Here are the key states that Trump won by narrow margins and the number of electoral college votes.

Michigan, 0.27% - 16
Wisconsin, 0.93% - 10
Pennsylvania, 1.24% - 20
Florida, 1.27% - 29

Ciinton's path to winning the election would have been to win Michigan first of all, which was very close, and with a 0.27% margin, anything could have flipped it in her favour. Perhaps the FBI stuff was what decided it there.

But then she would have needed to add either Pennslyvania or Florida, so the question is, could the FBI's investigation have caused almost 2% of people there to change their vote to her, given that it added nothing to what was already known?

I'm not sure that it would.

Although Hillary continues too increase her popular vote lead, in electoral college terms it was a close but not a very, very tight race.
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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby HybridAmbassador » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:52 pm

For only the fourth time in U.S. history, the presidential campaign has ended with an electoral college winner who won fewer votes than his opponent.

Under the system established in the Constitution, in 1787, the winner is the candidate who wins the majority of electoral votes based on the state-by-state tallies, and that candidate is Donald Trump.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol ... story.html
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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby AHusband » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:36 pm

Considering that there were a lot of third party/undecideds in the final week and they broke 2:1 for Trump... if they had broken 1:1 instead I think that Florida and Penn would have gone Hillary. So the FBI could have cost Hillary the election.

But it should never have been that way. If Hillary didn't have all of the signs of corruption (wall street, etc) and had shown that she felt people's pain (BLM and the workers of the Rust Belt) it would not have been close. Instead she is (not in a legal sense) corrupt which depressed voters (like myself, although I did vote for her) and took the African American voters and the workers of the Rust Belt for granted (not even campaigning in Wisconsin).

It shouldn't have been close.

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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby thisisreallycomplicated » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:04 pm

thisisreallycomplicated wrote:
JHyre wrote:Could it abruptly change? Sure. More revalations on the true Hillary might make a difference - in her way, she is every bit as crazy as Trump. As in "what new corruption will come forth".

How about another dead person:

"ANOTHER MYSTERIOUS DEATH=> Activist and Sanders Supporter Who Served Papers to DNC on Fraud Case Found Dead"
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08 ... nc-papers/

"Haiti Official Who Exposed The Clinton Foundation Is Found Dead"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-1 ... found-dead

clinton_body_count += 1
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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby frozen-north » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:37 am

thisisreallycomplicated wrote:
"Haiti Official Who Exposed The Clinton Foundation Is Found Dead"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-1 ... found-dead

clinton_body_count += 1



How did he expose the Clinton Foundation??

He actually might have had good reasons to commit suicide.

But it appears that Eberwein had fallen on hard times. An Uber spokesperson confirmed that he worked as a driver for awhile in South Florida.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 83614.html


And this, from the original link, seems to be incorrect:

Eberwein was a former Haitian government official who was expected to expose the extent of Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice next week.


The hearing was about something different.

Eberwein was scheduled to appear Tuesday before the Haitian Senate’s Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission, the head of the commission, Sen. Evalière Beauplan confirmed. The commission is investigating the management of PetroCaribe funds, the money Haiti receives from Venezuela’s discounted oil program.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 83614.html




Did a Former Haitian Official Commit Suicide Before Clinton Testimony?
After Klaus Eberwein's suicide, inevitable links to the "Clinton Body Count" rumor emerged, but without clear merit.

http://www.snopes.com/klaus-eberwein/



The corruption in Haiti seems to have a long history. Remember Papa Doc?

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Re: Poll: Who will win the USSA election?

Postby thisisreallycomplicated » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:48 am

frozen-north wrote:
thisisreallycomplicated wrote:
"Haiti Official Who Exposed The Clinton Foundation Is Found Dead"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-1 ... found-dead

clinton_body_count += 1



How did he expose the Clinton Foundation??

He actually might have had good reasons to commit suicide.

But it appears that Eberwein had fallen on hard times. An Uber spokesperson confirmed that he worked as a driver for awhile in South Florida.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 83614.html


And this, from the original link, seems to be incorrect:

Eberwein was a former Haitian government official who was expected to expose the extent of Clinton Foundation corruption and malpractice next week.


The hearing was about something different.

Eberwein was scheduled to appear Tuesday before the Haitian Senate’s Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission, the head of the commission, Sen. Evalière Beauplan confirmed. The commission is investigating the management of PetroCaribe funds, the money Haiti receives from Venezuela’s discounted oil program.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation- ... 83614.html




Did a Former Haitian Official Commit Suicide Before Clinton Testimony?
After Klaus Eberwein's suicide, inevitable links to the "Clinton Body Count" rumor emerged, but without clear merit.

http://www.snopes.com/klaus-eberwein/



The corruption in Haiti seems to have a long history. Remember Papa Doc?

The article could just be click-bait. Zerohedge seems to be getting more of that recently, or it's just becoming more obvious. But I don't exactly trust snopes either, so I'll compromise:)

alleged_clinton_body_count += 1
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