Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:20 pm

admin wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:09 pm
and here is sentor navarro in Venezuela in JULY calling for a new communist constitution:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdm0WGnjzZA

I don't remember anyone talking about a new constitution in July, anywhere in Chile; but, magically here we are.
Navarro the same dickhead who argued openly against the encapuchado legislation.

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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by mem » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:54 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote: I repeat, there is no such thing as treason in Chile...
Werd up

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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by 41southchile » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:37 pm

Stupid or just not giving a shit ? , If you were in charge of spending at the muni of one of the most violently affected cities in the country would you think it a good idea to spend 35 million pesos for a day trip for the dia de funcionario for seat warming muni workers at a local resort, last Friday.
On the 7 week anniversary of lootings and violence these idiots thought it was a good idea. This is why nothing will change in Chile even with supposedly so much lost and still to loose, they somehow dont get it? Or do they , and seriously are that arrogant and self entitled?
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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:43 pm

Or do they and seriously are that arrogant a and self entitled?
Yep.

Sharpie and company are commies BTW.

When will most of Chile and the foreigners here lose there tolerance for the Commie Party, the richest party in Chile and by most standards in other countries, engaged in and have been for a long while in treasonous activities.
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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by admin » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:15 am

Like I said before I have never met a poor socialist politician in Chile. They are all rich.
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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by Dosedmonkey » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:36 am

The fact the "left" politicians are so absurd in Chile might be why people prefer to vote Pinera or not vote at all and then go and protest to get what they want.

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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by 41southchile » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:37 am

Dosedmonkey wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:36 am
The fact the "left" politicians are so absurd in Chile might be why people prefer to vote Pinera or not vote at all and then go and protest to get what they want.
Yeah, the majority of people are easily manipulated and for 23 of the last 29 years of democracy the "left" managed to convince them that they were on "their side".
People have short memories or are stupid and were convinced MB was different in 2013 and elected her for a 2nd time ffs. Piñera was the result of people not convinced of the left's bs anymore.
That's democracy, choose a shit candidate that could take Chile further down the drain or a shit candidate that at least you know is an asshole but a predictable ass hole, or abstain after your Fraude Amplio candidate didn't make the cut, then go into auto destructive mode 2 years later, cutting your nose off to spite your face. What a country, a bad banana republic joke ?
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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by 41southchile » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:01 am

Dosedmonkey wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:27 pm


If you think there is no secret service and people manipulation in Chile I think your being quite inoccent. Obviously not the same scale as China, but there really isn't any need, the population is so small in comparison and not really any threats outside the small groups of communists and anarchists that pop up. I'm pretty sure every country in the world has shady men doing things off the record. The whole idea is if they do their job right no one should know.

But also mentioning literature, standard literature is so expensive and hard to get in Chile, it always shocked me at how much books cost to be honest and wondered if that was why most Chileans don't seem to have many books at home compared to people in Europe.
Yeah I just meant on the scale of what China does in HK, of course there are shady types in Chile.
As for Literature I think it goes back to the relatively recent poverty and ruralness of the country, reading was only for elites, and they actively discouraged workers reading and learning way back in the day , so the culture of books was never a part of life for the masses in Chile, and still isn't for many, despite income levels rising and poverty being brought down, it's just not something that is valued by many.
It's not a price thing (I guess it's more politically correct to blame it on price) , many parents would shell out 50000 pesos for an original colocolo football shirt etc but would never buy their kid a book, just because they never grew up with books, it's another thing that gets passed down, (or rather doesn't get passed down) the generations.
It's the same in many countries, citizens with more education have more books in their houses for their kids. Pooorer education means none or not many books at home, even if they have the money to spare sometimes they still wont buy books. You could make books 1000 pesos in Chile and many people still wouldn't buy them.
Fix education then the problem of books in home would fix itself no matter how expensive they supposedly are .
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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by admin » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:21 am

reading is a problem everywhere, and I believe it is directly linked to the problem of intellectual laziness. Plenty of people I have met in the United States somehow made it through school and even in to a university without ever reading an entire book in their life; and it showed in their ability to reason.

My wife's niece a couple of years ago, at 12 years old, asked my wife for an English copy of Hamlet.

so we went to a bookstore just to buy her that one book. We sort of got carried away. I was like, "she has to read this, if she reads that". An hour later we had several hundred thousand pesos in books stacked up on the counter. we were planning to spend 10,000 pesos. I told my wife, "screw it, we could spend a million dollars on the best private school in the world for her, and that stack of books would still do more for her education".

She read them all. Most were in English. She is asking for more. We do a big book buy for her now a couple times a year. For a few hundred thousand pesos we were able to take a 12 year old, Chilean juinor high, native Spanish speaker's Education level to a point I have no doubt she could hang in just fine in a U.S. university English Literature course. She is now at 14 already talking about where she wants go to the university outside the country. She does not talk about it in terms of "if" she goes to the university , but "when". She was debating going to a Chilean university, then I showed her a photo of one of the libraries at one of the universities I went to in the States. That pretty much sealed the deal for her.

I need to work on her writing skills in English a bit, but that is easily fixed.
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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by alextrombone » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:21 am

admin wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:15 am
Like I said before I have never met a poor socialist politician in Chile. They are all rich.
Being a socialist is about politics and engagement, not your economic background.

Not that I’m particularly convinced by any Chilean politician on the left, bar perhaps Beatriz Sanchez. It’s so polarised these days, you’re either with us, or against us. This is how fringe, populist candidates like JA Kast get elected (god forbid).

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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by admin » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:41 am

alextrombone wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:21 am
admin wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:15 am
Like I said before I have never met a poor socialist politician in Chile. They are all rich.
Being a socialist is about politics and engagement, not your economic background.

Not that I’m particularly convinced by any Chilean politician on the left, bar perhaps Beatriz Sanchez. It’s so polarised these days, you’re either with us, or against us. This is how fringe, populist candidates like JA Kast get elected (god forbid).
aaahhh, in latin America, it is about corruption. always. If you think "socialism" in latin America is about politics, you need to get out a bit.
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Re: Chile Political and Social Crisis 2019

Post by admin » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:43 am

Here are some potential future darwin award winners.


https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... inos.shtml

If you are so fucking stupid to attack the volunteer firefighters while your nieghborhood is burning down, you deserve to be homeless and poor.
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