Neither did I, I better throw mine away out of the car, wouldnt want to be confused with some sort of yellow vest militia, I suppose if it's any consolation the cops are not doing traffic stops to check if I'm carrying it.
State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
Here is all the video clips of the incident collected off twitter on to one page.
http://www.gamba.cl/2019/11/video-chale ... -la-playa/
http://www.gamba.cl/2019/11/video-chale ... -la-playa/
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
I think the yellow vests are people in favor of the peace and against criminal behavior. I don't think they are explicitly against peaceful protests, that's not what makes you a yellow vest person.
But I think in practice many people like this probably would like even the peaceful protests to stop.
At least that is the sense I got from a few bits and pieces here and there. Actually, I could be wrong.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
Plenty of yellow vests just want to defend their community and want change in Chile too. Let's not polarise them because one foreigner who seems to have a very shady past went on a shooting spree.
Watching the clips I posted above at no point did I see his life under threat. Not that many people there and a clear road ahead, other traffic moving fine. All the time he has a large distance between him and just people shouting at him. They look way to casual, unmasked and calm to be attacking him. Not like the black clad anarchists of Santiago. So presumably he is just lost the plot, gone full mental and the exact reason why guns should be illegal.
The real question is, how are all gringos going to be preceived now..
Watching the clips I posted above at no point did I see his life under threat. Not that many people there and a clear road ahead, other traffic moving fine. All the time he has a large distance between him and just people shouting at him. They look way to casual, unmasked and calm to be attacking him. Not like the black clad anarchists of Santiago. So presumably he is just lost the plot, gone full mental and the exact reason why guns should be illegal.
The real question is, how are all gringos going to be preceived now..
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
There are lots of links to him and white supremacy groups and other links of his goal to colonize parts of Chile. The dregs of American society. A cartoon character of American trigger-happy entitled white male priviledge.Why take a gun to target practise in a highly volatile area wjith lots of demonstrators, and then instead of going right home, head to the beach where the action is? Maybe he wanted more than target practise. I hope they lock him up and kick his group and followers out of the country.
Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
Unfortunately none of the videos show the entire event, just parts out of context, but agree this does not look like he will do well. He's already totally doxd on yt.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
Thanks for this. However, I can clearly see after reading this site for just 2 minutes that is obviously a very biased, very left wing, very shit site that clearly can't be trusted.Dosedmonkey wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:32 pmHere is all the video clips of the incident collected off twitter on to one page.
http://www.gamba.cl/2019/11/video-chale ... -la-playa/
Of course the videos speak for themselves however, so it's still useful to see all the clips collected together, so I am not criticising you for posting. So unless they have left out clips that don't support their obvious agenda (possible) this is still a useful link provided you watch the videos and ignore the words.
He claims that he was surrounded by people shaking the car, banging it, and attacking it. None of the videos show this, perhaps because usually the beginning of an incident is left off because no-one is filming until it becomes an incident (yet another one of the reasons why clips on facebook that show incidents are often so frustratingly useless, at least in isolation). However the videos show that he gets out of the car to fire shots, and there is hardly anyway around the car and it looks like he might have been able to drive off had he chosen to do so. Perhaps people ran off when he loaded the gun, or he drove ahead of the crowds and then got out, or maybe he's being somewhat economical with the truth, or maybe there's another explanation. If any CCTV recorded the initial part of the incident, that may be useful to the police investigation. It may even leak out at some point.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
Just for the record, he was a minor competitor to admin for services and advice for "expats". Was initially involved in Galt's Gulch and backed off to support another project in Puchuncavi which I have no idea how that one turned out. I believe he rubbed shoulders with such characters as John Steele and the mysterious "International Man". Ran a questionable "work contract" scam for those English speaking expats who wanted a route to residency. Also had quite a detailed explanation on how to obtain a gun permit in Chile.
Maybe he was the only CIA man around to instigate a "Maiden"-type event
(Probably received an untraceable call on his cell going home from the range that triggered the program
) ( Notice how he says he kind of blanked out and can't remember exactly what happened
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Maybe he was the only CIA man around to instigate a "Maiden"-type event






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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
Another question is, if his story of events (just happened to be on the way to the gun range, car was surrounded) is true, why was he wearing a yellow vest? Did he stop to put it on amidst all the action (doesn't seem plausible)? Or does he always wear it when driving (seems odd)?
Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
I'm thinking he was wearing it while driving. That is what brought the ire of the protestors. They surround his car and start rocking it and things escalate from there.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
Whatever the circumstances, govt will look to make an example of him I bet, attempted homicide or whatever that translates to, intentendent for the area doing a querella tomorrow. This guys life just changed forever today.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019
This YouTube comment has the ring of truth to it.
This "el que baila pasa" is typical of the silly shit that these kids get up to.
But Big John wasn't having it....he "stood his ground". Idiot.
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This "el que baila pasa" is typical of the silly shit that these kids get up to.
But Big John wasn't having it....he "stood his ground". Idiot.
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