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LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:59 am

For those who have not yet heard. Will take about a year.

Delta bought 20% of LATAM and got rid of its stake in GOL so in the longer term, it may become a Skyteam member.
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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by admin » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:15 am

yea, i listened in on the conference call yesterday as i still have a little bit of LTM stock.

I am not sure this is going to fly with the regulators, but probably at least parts of it should.

kind of curious to see if emirate airlines starts a bidding war, as they already have 10% of latam.

I think everyone wants a piece of latam, because they have a massive portfolio of legacy slots they acquired from all the national airlines they absorbed. latin American airports are not expanding sufficiently fast to keep up with the demand from the low cost airlines.

kind of glad AA is gone though. I don't want to fly AA outside the country when making a connection to latam.

the one I am waiting for however is some clarity as to how our miles convert, and what sort of access we get to various lounges and routes on other airlines. We fly a lot for work inside the country, pile up the miles throughout the year, then use them for our vacations outside the country. I don't want to get short changed on our frequent flyer perks in this shuffle.
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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by T_ROBO » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:55 pm

It seems that AA will be at the short end. They recently closed their Admiral Club in Santiago and depended on LATAM lounge. Do not know if that lounge will still be available when the deal with Delta is completed.

Last week I was flooded out in Texas, and AA rerouted me to JFK to use LATAM flight back to Santiago. Do not know what will happen in cases like this in the future when they are not partners any more.

The week before last week when I flew out of Santiago to Miami, the flight was overbooked and AA offered me to take a United flight directly to Houston. It seems that they might team up with United in the future.

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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by admin » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:13 am

they said on the conference call that AA code sharing was only contributing something like 20 million a year in revenues to LTM.

I doubt AA is going to dramatically increase the number flights to chile, or the rest of latin America, on their own. They will probably go shopping for another partner in latin america.
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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by at46 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:28 pm

If the newly discovered cracking issues on Boeing 737NG lead to their grounding, air travel might suddenly become a whole lot more expensive. If someone wanted to create inflation, this could be one way of doing so. https://simpleflying.com/boeing-737-ng-engine-cracking/

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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by admin » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:21 pm

at46 wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:28 pm
If the newly discovered cracking issues on Boeing 737NG lead to their grounding, air travel might suddenly become a whole lot more expensive. If someone wanted to create inflation, this could be one way of doing so. https://simpleflying.com/boeing-737-ng-engine-cracking/
probably one of the other main reasons this deal is appealing to delta. they get a total of 10 airbus planes.
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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by papageno » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:36 am

at46 wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:28 pm
If the newly discovered cracking issues on Boeing 737NG lead to their grounding, air travel might suddenly become a whole lot more expensive. If someone wanted to create inflation, this could be one way of doing so. https://simpleflying.com/boeing-737-ng-engine-cracking/
Not a new problem:

https://militaryhistorynow.com/2018/09/ ... s-results/

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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by admin » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:07 am

this is interesting.

if this goes through, delta may be close to being the controlling shareholder over LATAM.

https://www.latercera.com/pulso-trader/ ... ta/837956/
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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by dmwbmw2 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:43 am

Link didn't get me to an article about LATAM....

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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:58 pm

Any Empire travelers out there who can comment on transit at ATL vs. DFW? Which one sucks more?

Also, unfortunate that the shopping program of Delta is not as advantageous to me as the AA one.
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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by admin » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:59 pm

i have the sneaky suspicion, AA is going to have a hard time going it alone in latin america:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1059311

AA flight canceled out of lima for three days in a row for mechanical and other issues?
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Re: LATAM leaving OneWorld

Post by at46 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:29 pm

papageno wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:36 am
at46 wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:28 pm
If the newly discovered cracking issues on Boeing 737NG lead to their grounding, air travel might suddenly become a whole lot more expensive. If someone wanted to create inflation, this could be one way of doing so. https://simpleflying.com/boeing-737-ng-engine-cracking/
Not a new problem:

https://militaryhistorynow.com/2018/09/ ... s-results/
Apparently, 123 of Lockheed C-130 were grounded in the US in August due to cracking issues, also in some wing joint. https://www.military.com/daily-news/201 ... rries.html

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