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New name for Santiago Airport

Post by 41southchile » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:48 pm

So someone came up with the bright idea that the airport should be renamed Pablo Neruda airport.
I just thought it was a cheesy idea and frankly a waste of time and money not to mention a bit disrespectful to Arturo Merino Benetiz , but it turns out the idolised Pablo Neruda was a rapist, he raped his maid in 1929, so that's a bit awkward, especially for the left who have to still defend him, Isabel Allende said ,
"Very few people – especially powerful or influential men – behave admirably. Unfortunately, Neruda was a flawed person, as we all are in one way or another, and Canto General is still a masterpiece,
Like many young feminists in Chile I am disgusted by some aspects of Neruda’s life and personality,” she told the Guardian. “However, we cannot dismiss his writing.”

Right ok Isabel, that's fair enough, now, I would like to think she would make that distinction also with someone on the right. Someone, that no matter what other good things they may have done they would not be totally destroyed if they were actually a rapist (or sexual harrasser) back in the day, somehow I doubt Isabel would be able to separate the two things in that scenario

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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by admin » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:00 am

i got some news for the left they are not going to like.

the vast majority of that 50% mapuche blood in the chilean population, did not come from loving consentual relationship in magical marriages. in fact, pretty much the entire demographics of the continent traces back to a bunch of genocidal rapists and slave traders that viewed, and many still view, the indiginious population as less than human.

but, hey, all hail maduro and castro. human rights violations and genocide is o.k., when they espouse the right sort of party line.

start with stoping the rapist that are alive. trying to edit out every mishaving male that ever apeared in a history book is a whole diffrent movement.
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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by fraggle092 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:54 am

Chileans admire Neruda as Argentinians do Maradona.
Canallas in real life who achieved international fame and fortune.
Everyone loves a winner.

Here's a snippet from one of Neruda's poems that lyrically celebrates the USA, and its people.
But it comes with a sting in its tail that threatens that same country with nuclear destruction. Nice.
Y desde el laboratorio cubierto de enredaderas
saldrá también el átomo desencadenado
hacia vuestras ciudades orgullosas.


Pablo Neruda - Que despierte el leñador (1948)
And of course he was a big Stalin fanboy:
"Stalin alza, limpia, construye, fortifica
preserva, mira, protege, alimenta,
pero también castiga.
Y esto es cuanto quería deciros, camaradas:
hace falta el castigo

Pablo Neruda - Canto General (1950)
Yeah, falta el castigo. As if Stalin hadn't castigado enough already.

Neruda should have just stuck to his oleaginous poesía de amor
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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by 41southchile » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:28 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:54 am
Chileans admire Neruda as Argentinians do Maradona.
Canallas in real life who achieved international fame and fortune.
Everyone loves a winner.

Here's a snippet from one of Neruda's poems that lyrically celebrates the USA, and its people.
But it comes with a sting in its tail that threatens that country with nuclear destruction. Nice.
Y desde el laboratorio cubierto de enredaderas
saldrá también el átomo desencadenado
hacia vuestras ciudades orgullosas.


Pablo Neruda - Que despierte el leñador (1948)
And of course he was a big Stalin fanboy:
"Stalin alza, limpia, construye, fortifica
preserva, mira, protege, alimenta,
pero también castiga.
Y esto es cuanto quería deciros, camaradas:
hace falta el castigo

Pablo Neruda - Canto General (1950)
Yeah, falta el castigo. As if Stalin hadn't castigado enough already.

Should have just stuck to his oleaginous poesía de amor
Yup, not denying his fame and poetry works, just wondering about the hypocrisy of those on the left that can separate the two issues in this particular case, which strangely they never seem able to do in almost any other cases where men are vilived in exactly the same position, where they have achieved a lot in one area of their public life but their personal lifes have let them down, their only difference being they are not idols of the left.
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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by fraggle092 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:51 pm

The Pablo Neruda renaming initiative of course comes from the Communists and their allies, always eager to promote and preserve the memory of their "Saints"

Perhaps the feminazis should propose renaming the Aeopuerto Internacional Comodoro Arturo Merino Benítez after Gabriela Mistral, who as well as being a Nobel prizewinner, was much more socially useful than that bag of commie wind Pablo Neruda. She was also virtually apolitical, hence less divisive socially despite posthumous and ongoing attempts by the leftists to claim her image for their cause.

She was also a crypto lesbian by all accounts which should endear her even more to the wimmin.

Me, I prefer Pudahuel. Its "ethnic" and also simpler and quicker to pronounce.
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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by at46 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:07 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:51 pm
The Pablo Neruda renaming initiative of course comes from the Communists and their allies.

Perhaps the feminazis can propose renaming it after Gabriela Mistral, who as well as being a Nobel prizewinner, was much more socially useful than that bag of commie wind, Pablo Neruda.

She was also a crypto lesbian by all accounts which should endear her even more to the wimmin.

Me, I prefer Pudahuel. Its "ethnic" and also simpler and quicker to pronounce.
From a marketing perspective, changing the current name that's been around for a long time, will confuse a lot of people around the world. So I would say sticking with the old name is best. But if you wanna change it for whatever illogical reason, than Pablo Neruda would be better recognized around the world as specifically Chilean, all too boring and predictable as it is.

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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by fraggle092 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:21 pm

at46 wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:07 pm
So I would say sticking with the old name is best.
Oops you quoted me before I had finished editing, but imho Aeopuerto Internacional Comodoro Arturo Merino Benítez is a bit too much of a mouthful.
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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by Britkid » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:13 pm

Here is the quote.

Una mañana, decidido a todo, la tomé fuertemente de la muñeca y la miré cara a cara. No había idioma alguno en que pudiera hablarle. Se dejó conducir por mí sin una sonrisa y pronto estuvo desnuda sobre mi cama. .....El encuentro fue el de un hombre con una estatua. Permaneció todo el tiempo con sus ojos abiertos, impasible. Hacía bien en despreciarme. No se repitió la experiencia.

It does sound like rape. It doesn't say who removed her clothes and it's impossible to say for certain whether this was rape but it looks like it very likely was.

I actually think you can dismiss someone's art because of bad behaviours and crimes. I mean, if tomorrow great works of art would found in a secret compartment in Adolf Hitler's bunker where he died, and all experts universally agreed that they were of stunningly high quality, and it was somehow conclusively proven that he painted them, they just wouldn't be featured in art galleries, and "oh, you have to separate the man from his art" just wouldn't fly as an argument.

I think definitely no to the airport since that is giving a person a particularly high honour, elevating them above others.
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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by Britkid » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:18 pm

Did Arturo Benítez Merino ever do anything bad? If not, I'd let him keep the airport.

If not, Pudahuel and Mistral sound like good ideas as well.
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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by Space Cat » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:48 pm

Britkid wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:18 pm
Did Arturo Benítez Merino ever do anything bad? If not, I'd let him keep the airport.
No and he was a huge Allende supporter:
Considerado un nacionalista de izquierda, Merino Benítez fue un ferviente partidario del socialista Salvador Allende. En la elección de 1964, el comodoro incluso organizó una concentración en el Teatro Baquedano para apoyar la candidatura presidencial de Allende bajo el lema "La familia militar junto a Allende". En el evento, Merino Benítez dijo: "Defenderemos su triunfo, que será el triunfo de la nación entera [...] sólo Allende es garantía de que se harán grandes cambios en Chile".
So the whole mess isn't even political, it's just some bureaucrats not having better things to do.

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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by fraggle092 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:35 pm

Space Cat wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:48 pm
So the whole mess isn't even political, it's just some bureaucrats not having better things to do.
Everything is political in this country. It was politicians who proposed the name change. One of them is no less than Guillermo Teillier, Diputado, Leader of the Chilean Communist party and ex terrorist.

SANTIAGO.- La Comisión de Cultura de la Cámara de Diputados aprobó el proyecto de ley que busca cambiar el nombre del Aeropuerto Internacional Arturo Merino Benítez por el de "Aeropuerto Internacional Pablo Neruda". Ahora, la iniciativa quedó lista para ser discutida en la Sala.

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Re: New name for Santiago Airport

Post by at46 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:49 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:21 pm
at46 wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:07 pm
So I would say sticking with the old name is best.
Oops you quoted me before I had finished editing, but imho Aeopuerto Internacional Comodoro Arturo Merino Benítez is a bit too much of a mouthful.
I remember it by SCL and Arturo Benitez. So not too hard to say or memorize.

The good thing about the old name is that everybody's used to it and nobody is interested in figuring out who Arturo actually was and how many sheep he had. For the new name of someone other than Neruda, they'll have to come up with a believable background story aggrandizing that guy but also denigrating Arturo, to justify the change over. It's just a silly idea that's come from the States I think what with their Don Quixotian fighting with Columbus statues.

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