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Re: North Korea

Post by Julito » Wed May 30, 2018 1:26 am

Troll alert... ok, abandoned. He only shredded the US copies. Everybody else still have theirs.

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Re: North Korea

Post by admin » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:06 am

Oh my god. Just when i thought I could not be any more embarrassed to be an american.

Dennis rodman on frigen cnn crying is how we are doing international diplomacy over nuclear weapons and ending the korean war?

My father faught in the korean war. A lot of americans died in that war. Regardless if that war was justified, i am not sure that reality TV circus is going to sit well with a whole lot vets. One of those moments i am glad my father did not live to see, and unfortunatly there seems to be more and more of those these days.
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Re: North Korea

Post by Huelshoff » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:37 am

My father fought in the war too, and I join you in in being glad that he didn't live to see this. The agreement is a nothingburger, matches point by point what the North Koreans said they wanted before the meeting. To top it off, the world got that embarrassment of a news conference from Trump. To paraphrase. "anyone who doesn't like this agreement doesn't like Trump."

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Re: North Korea

Post by HybridAmbassador » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:57 pm

Stalin gave NK all rifles and cannons for the Korean war. Mao sent and more than 400K red army annihilated by the UN with US army in vanguard.
And since then the cease-fire till today. Trumpster may arise as the end-to-North~South war ender and may be awarded a Nobel peace prize, well even Obama received one, don't know what for but the world says that Trumpster definitely deserving one. He only makes the deal, the economic aid for NK de-nuclearization, he is depending to SK and Japan's wallets!
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Re: North Korea

Post by HybridAmbassador » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:33 pm

Full text of the U.S.-North Korea agreement signed by Trump, Kim Jong Un.
The document signed by the leaders pledges "the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula."
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President Donald J Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held first historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive in-depth and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new US-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.

Convinced that the establishment of new US-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity
The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula
Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula
The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Having acknowledged that the US-DPRK summit — the first in history — was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulation in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the US-DPRK summit.

President Donald J Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new US-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.
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Re: North Korea

Post by admin » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:32 pm

Huelshoff wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:37 am
My father fought in the war too, and I join you in in being glad that he didn't live to see this. The agreement is a nothingburger, matches point by point what the North Koreans said they wanted before the meeting. To top it off, the world got that embarrassment of a news conference from Trump. To paraphrase. "anyone who doesn't like this agreement doesn't like Trump."

That is not true.

Short list of groups that really like this deal, but don't like trump:

North korea
China
Russia
Iran
Syria
Canada

Seems that last one has been america's greatest security threat all along, so we will just blaim it on canada (No more over priced F-35's for you).

I think that is affirming the consquense, but i'm too tired to fully unpack it.

Good thing we live in a post-truth world. We no longer need to worry about valid argument structures, if no one cares about the truth anyway.
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Re: North Korea

Post by AnciaVagar » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:24 pm

Don't forget that South Korea is quietly preparing for reunification. They will dominate a One Korea and have the second most to gain. The North Korean people have the first most to gain.

The world praised Obama with a Peace Prize for doing nothing (and he worked against peace). When that same world hates Trump, he only looks better for it.

For China the chickens are coming home to roost. Xi is in the unenviable position of choosing a shared border with a nuclear third-world North Korea, or a free One Korea. The Chinese fear both options.

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Re: North Korea

Post by admin » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:20 pm

Pretty sure China would dominate any reunified Korea.

Not like the U.S. has a great record of winning wars in Korea. Everyone seems to forget the first Korean war.
We seem to have a long history of threatening and attacking Korea, simply for not wanting to talk to us.
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Re: North Korea

Post by HybridAmbassador » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:06 pm

1950 to 2018. Video of Korea war. The US and USSR agreed to divide Korean peninsula in 38 lateral.Then PRC wanted a piece too.

How did the Korean War start?
The Korean War began when North Korean troops pushed into South Korea on June 25, 1950, and it lasted until 1953. But experts said the military conflict could not be properly understood without considering its historical context.

Korea, a Japanese colony from 1910 until 1945, was occupied by the United States and the Soviet Union at the end of World War II. The United States proposed temporarily dividing the country along the 38th Parallel as a way to maintain its influence on the peninsula, which bordered Russia, said Charles K. Armstrong, a professor of Korean history at Columbia University.
“A divided Korea was something unprecedented,” he said.
But the divide lasted in part because of competing visions among Koreans for the country’s future. “Fundamentally it was a civil war, fought over issues going back into Korea’s colonial experience,” said Bruce Cumings, a professor of history at the University of Chicago.

In 1948, the American-backed, anti-communist southern administration, based in Seoul, declared itself the Republic of Korea. It was led by Syngman Rhee, who lived in exile in the United States for many years and was installed as the South Korean leader by the Office of Strategic Services, a predecessor to the Central Intelligence Agency, Professor Cumings said.
Soon after, the Soviet-backed, communist northern administration, based in Pyongyang, declared itself the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Its leader was Kim Il-sung, who fought alongside communist forces during the Chinese civil war and was the grandfather of North Korea’s current dictator, Kim Jong-un.
Each regime was unstable, rejected the legitimacy of the other and considered itself to be Korea’s sole rightful ruler. Border skirmishes between the two were frequent before the Korean War began.

Who were the combatants?
The war pitted South Korea and the United States, fighting under the auspices of the United Nations, against North Korea and China.
Other nations contributed troops, too, but American forces did most of the fighting. “The South Korean Army virtually collapsed” at the start of the war, Professor Cumings said.
The Soviet Union supported North Korea at the beginning of the war, giving it arms, tanks and strategic advice. But China soon emerged as its most important ally, sending soldiers to fight

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