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Re: North Korea

Post by mem » Sun May 27, 2018 4:28 pm

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Snowden, on trump and putin

Snowden, speaking from Moscow, said he also doesn’t believe Trump is the kind of crack double operator Putin would rely on.

“To be honest, everyone who has heard Trump speak for three minutes knows he’s a wrecking ball,” he said. “This does not sound like the kind of person that you would want to engage in some kind of complicated ‘Manchurian Candidate’” spy operation, when “the guy can’t even remember what he’s going to say at the end of a sentence.”
I watched his video address a few weeks ago. Snowden is a pretty sharp guy for being relativley young. At the same time he is very pragmatic. Snowden for prez. Ben davis for vp : )

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Re: North Korea

Post by admin » Sun May 27, 2018 6:40 pm

Not sure where to post this.

How the btazil / argentina denuclearizatiin pacts from the 70, 80s could be a model for north korea:

https://warontherocks.com/2018/05/nucle ... ry-lesson/
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Re: North Korea

Post by Julito » Sun May 27, 2018 8:40 pm

Interesting, but a different time and a different era. If left completely alone the two Koreas would probably work it out to each others imperfect satisfaction over time. But as we know there's a certain country which has zero intention of allowing that to happen due to it's own nefarious geo-strategic goals in relation to China...

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Re: North Korea

Post by admin » Mon May 28, 2018 12:28 am

Korea has been contested strategically important turf for a thousand years. The u.s. is not the only one with strategic skin in the game.
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Re: North Korea

Post by Huelshoff » Mon May 28, 2018 11:09 am

A few months ago I read a story about Russia wanting to build a natural gas pipeline through North Korea to South Korea, but the project has been held up due to the political uncertainty. The North Koreans, according to the article, want it for both their own use and for the security guarantee that would come with a major Russian investment. The article suggested that if and when it was built, the North Koreans would be willing to negotiate away their nuclear weapons. Don't know if I buy the last part of that argument, but at least it suggests that there are many players in North Korea's future.

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Re: North Korea

Post by at46 » Mon May 28, 2018 3:46 pm

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Mon May 28, 2018 11:09 am
A few months ago I read a story about Russia wanting to build a natural gas pipeline through North Korea to South Korea, but the project has been held up due to the political uncertainty. The North Koreans, according to the article, want it for both their own use and for the security guarantee that would come with a major Russian investment. The article suggested that if and when it was built, the North Koreans would be willing to negotiate away their nuclear weapons. Don't know if I buy the last part of that argument, but at least it suggests that there are many players in North Korea's future.
I'm kinda thinking the whole US-China trade war may have been instigated by China via its proxy N. Korea to try and grab whatever US technology companies they can put their hands on. The States simply don't produce enough soybeans to cover the 200 billion deficit. Another goal would be to de-Americanize S. Korea in order to be the sole investor and benefactor of the eventual South-North unification. Allowing a Russian gas pipeline into North and South Korea will keep the Russians happy and put pressure on the price of Qatar LNG, of which China is now the second largest buyer after Japan, with S. Korea in third place.

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Re: North Korea

Post by HybridAmbassador » Mon May 28, 2018 4:37 pm

Trumpster's pledge in offering N.K. enough incentive for them to become a very "wealthy nation" might be very appealing to Kim Jong Un.
But he wants step by step dismantling of nuke stockpile and its ICBM rockets. 1st step taken in blowing up decommissioned tunnels so needing to get paid for it. Then the chubby kid sacrifice one A bomb but needing to get paid, then the 2nd one 6 month later and needing to get paid and so on and on. So in order to get rid of all their Nukes, it may take more than 10 years..Trumpster, can you wait that long?
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Re: North Korea

Post by Julito » Mon May 28, 2018 7:28 pm

Given the number of international agreements Trump has unilaterally shredded it doesn't matter what anyone thinks they've agreed to now or into the future anymore. Nth Korea'd be committing suicide to de-nuke.

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Re: North Korea

Post by nikotromus » Mon May 28, 2018 9:34 pm

+1 Julito. Shredded by design, of course.

Countries like North Korea will be very, very important to the U.S. in the near future. There has to be an entity to take the blame for the massive financial fraud that's occurring there. TPTB won't tolerate fingers pointing where they belong.
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Mon May 28, 2018 7:28 pm
Given the number of international agreements Trump has unilaterally shredded it doesn't matter what anyone thinks they've agreed to now or into the future anymore. Nth Korea'd be committing suicide to de-nuke.

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Re: North Korea

Post by Dunlop » Tue May 29, 2018 8:20 am

I think you guys are mistaking Kim Jong-un's best interests and North Korea's best interests. It would absolutely be in the interest of the people of North Korea to stop this nonsense and reunite with South Korea. Kim is probably screwed in the long run either way. He's going to die either by someone from the inside or outside of the country.

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Re: North Korea

Post by HybridAmbassador » Tue May 29, 2018 3:22 pm

Chubby Kid is afraid of leaving N.K. to Singapore then in his absence, someone within his military
will take over N.K. and he not able to return to ...
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Re: North Korea

Post by AnciaVagar » Tue May 29, 2018 6:51 pm

Julito wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 7:28 pm
Given the number of international agreements Trump has unilaterally shredded ...
How many would that be? Which specific ones? Which of those were valid? Please advise.

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