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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by 41southchile » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:49 pm

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i previously posted somewhere about visit to the Argentinan book stores. even the architectural books, had heavy socialist spin.

If there is one country in latin America that is likely to go full blown Venezuela, it is Argentina. We all know how that ends.

but this time will be diffrent. diffrent as in Argentina has been kicking a full default down the road for almost 20 years now. This time we might see a Argentina refugee crisis.
I'm not entirely sure Christina will get in yet, (wishful/optimistic thinking)but if she does, yeah that's not the first I've heard of that scenario playing out, all bets are off, an even bigger continental migrationary crisis
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:20 pm

well here is a fairly comprehensive study of immigration in chile.

https://www.latercera.com/nacional/noti ... as/764564/

i have more than a few bones to pick with the conclusion they are drawing from the data.
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Post by admin » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:53 pm

well, I have to admit, this type of stupidity took longer to get organized than I expected; but, here it is.

They are denying a permit to march this sunday for an alt-right anti-immigrant march in Santiago, that also seems to have some people calling for people to be armed.

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... ital.shtml

I am also a bit suspicious regarding the armed part, based on some online posts, because that seems like it would be a very convenient excuse for the government to deny the permit and it would seem the organizers (even if they like the idea) would have to know it would be immediately grounds for denying a permit.

They are protesting against the new immimigration law, against Government resources being spent on immigrants, etc, etc. which, given the neo-nazi alt-right origins, probably just translates to thinly veiled 'no more black immigrant' (i.e. haiten, colombian, Venezuela blacks).
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Post by admin » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:10 pm

oh, it is also just rude to point out the 'white' supremacist in chile, they are not very 'white'.
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Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:15 pm

If you remember the video El Puelche once linked to long ago, Chilean Nazis believe in the superiority of the "Chilean race" of noble Spanish Conquistador genes mixed with unconquerable Mapuche genes.
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Post by admin » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:32 pm

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If you remember the video El Puelche once linked to long ago, Chilean Nazis believe in the superiority of the "Chilean race" of noble Spanish Conquistador genes mixed with unconquerable Mapuche genes.
yea, then it will be really rude to tell them they probably have jewish ancestors.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/578509/
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Post by admin » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:21 pm

again, the comments below those articles are more interesting than the article.

chileans are pissed, especially considering that they authorized multiple pro-immigration marches; but, not a anti-immigration march.

that is just going to incline people, that probably were not very inclined one way or the other, to turn out.

a lot of those comments are acussing pinera and company of being leftist, even communist supporters.
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Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:28 pm

And lets not talk of the Moors and how that lower class flaite blondie or upper class cuica blondie might just have a small percentage of negro in them.
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Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:32 pm

I predict the next elections will be surprising. Populism in Chile, just wait and see. Chileans before this uncontrolled immigration row already distrusted and were cynical of the the whole left-center-right famous name elite and of politicians in general. And when even the mainstream Chile media is taking a be tolerant line and ignoring or downplaying alternate voices where the only release are the comments sections of online news articles...

I predicted what is developing and WE as immigrants though non-impacting on costs to Chile and even benfi$ial will also get caught up in this pigsty.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by 41southchile » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:32 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:32 pm
I predict the next elections will be surprising. Populism in Chile, just wait and see. Chileans before this uncontrolled immigration row already distrusted and were cynical of the the whole left-center-right famous name elite and of politicians in general. And when even the mainstream Chile media is taking a be tolerant line and ignoring or downplaying alternate voices where the only release are the comments sections of online news articles...

I predicted what is developing and WE as immigrants though non-impacting on costs to Chile and even benfi$ial will also get caught up in this pigsty.
The squeaky wheel is always the one that gets the attention , which is what comments on news articles are. Seems like it's a competition, as to who can be the most friggin outrageous with the bs unfiltered/fakenews/bot/politicalpartytrolls/ignorant/kneejerker comments on those articles. Why dont I hear everyday Chileans in the streets or at social events spouting the shit that I read on newspaper comments sections ? Mostly because those comments are from friggin keyboard warriors looking for their puto likes or thumbs up, let's see if at least 45 percent of them get off their arse and get out to vote . Maybe then I'll start to pay attention.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:17 am

But they do, my Chilean wife even sometimes with me in presence (those that know I'm not a "poor" "uneducated" bad skin color - will not that bad a color - foreigner) have heard it but not to the candor and extreme of the comments.

Doubt any extranjero by themselves would hear such by the naturally passive-aggressive inscrutable Chileans especially with "education" (manners).

BTW, Santiago flaites, I have personally heard a couple of times of chino go back home or chino mierda/culiao and this was more than a decade back so I assume the sentiment against "undesirable" foreigners is worse now.

Ridicule, downplay, ignore or dismiss it with your solo blanco "inclusive" first-world POV as much as you want as it won't change the developing reality here in Chile.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by 41southchile » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:32 am

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:17 am
But they do, my Chilean wife even sometimes with me in presence (those that know I'm not a "poor" "uneducated" bad skin color - will not that bad a color - foreigner) have heard it but not to the candor and extreme of the comments.

Doubt any extranjero by themselves would hear such by the naturally passive-aggressive inscrutable Chileans especially with "education" (manners).

BTW, Santiago flaites, I have personally heard a couple of times of chino go back home or chino mierda/culiao and this was more than a decade back so I assume the sentiment against "undesirable" foreigners is worse now.

Ridicule, downplay, ignore or dismiss it with your solo blanco "inclusive" first-world POV as much as you want as it won't change the developing reality here in Chile.
Oh dont you worry I will continue to ignore and or dismiss it.
You seem to have your own particular POV then, and I guess I have my own blanco "inclusivo" first world one 🤔 Which I guess is only natural as everyone's world is subjective , living out our own particular lives trapped in our own brains "reality " , laughably confident we are experiencing the world as it really is .
Oh and btw if you insist on continuing to make assumptions about my character/situation , I’ll advise you only this: assume you will always be wrong.
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