I'm not entirely sure Christina will get in yet, (wishful/optimistic thinking)but if she does, yeah that's not the first I've heard of that scenario playing out, all bets are off, an even bigger continental migrationary crisisadmin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:00 ami previously posted somewhere about visit to the Argentinan book stores. even the architectural books, had heavy socialist spin.
If there is one country in latin America that is likely to go full blown Venezuela, it is Argentina. We all know how that ends.
but this time will be diffrent. diffrent as in Argentina has been kicking a full default down the road for almost 20 years now. This time we might see a Argentina refugee crisis.
chile's migration crisis
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Re: chile's migration crisis
well here is a fairly comprehensive study of immigration in chile.
https://www.latercera.com/nacional/noti ... as/764564/
i have more than a few bones to pick with the conclusion they are drawing from the data.
https://www.latercera.com/nacional/noti ... as/764564/
i have more than a few bones to pick with the conclusion they are drawing from the data.
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well, I have to admit, this type of stupidity took longer to get organized than I expected; but, here it is.
They are denying a permit to march this sunday for an alt-right anti-immigrant march in Santiago, that also seems to have some people calling for people to be armed.
https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... ital.shtml
I am also a bit suspicious regarding the armed part, based on some online posts, because that seems like it would be a very convenient excuse for the government to deny the permit and it would seem the organizers (even if they like the idea) would have to know it would be immediately grounds for denying a permit.
They are protesting against the new immimigration law, against Government resources being spent on immigrants, etc, etc. which, given the neo-nazi alt-right origins, probably just translates to thinly veiled 'no more black immigrant' (i.e. haiten, colombian, Venezuela blacks).
They are denying a permit to march this sunday for an alt-right anti-immigrant march in Santiago, that also seems to have some people calling for people to be armed.
https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... ital.shtml
I am also a bit suspicious regarding the armed part, based on some online posts, because that seems like it would be a very convenient excuse for the government to deny the permit and it would seem the organizers (even if they like the idea) would have to know it would be immediately grounds for denying a permit.
They are protesting against the new immimigration law, against Government resources being spent on immigrants, etc, etc. which, given the neo-nazi alt-right origins, probably just translates to thinly veiled 'no more black immigrant' (i.e. haiten, colombian, Venezuela blacks).
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oh, it is also just rude to point out the 'white' supremacist in chile, they are not very 'white'.
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If you remember the video El Puelche once linked to long ago, Chilean Nazis believe in the superiority of the "Chilean race" of noble Spanish Conquistador genes mixed with unconquerable Mapuche genes.
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yea, then it will be really rude to tell them they probably have jewish ancestors.eeuunikkeiexpat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:15 pmIf you remember the video El Puelche once linked to long ago, Chilean Nazis believe in the superiority of the "Chilean race" of noble Spanish Conquistador genes mixed with unconquerable Mapuche genes.
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/578509/
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again, the comments below those articles are more interesting than the article.
chileans are pissed, especially considering that they authorized multiple pro-immigration marches; but, not a anti-immigration march.
that is just going to incline people, that probably were not very inclined one way or the other, to turn out.
a lot of those comments are acussing pinera and company of being leftist, even communist supporters.
chileans are pissed, especially considering that they authorized multiple pro-immigration marches; but, not a anti-immigration march.
that is just going to incline people, that probably were not very inclined one way or the other, to turn out.
a lot of those comments are acussing pinera and company of being leftist, even communist supporters.
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And lets not talk of the Moors and how that lower class flaite blondie or upper class cuica blondie might just have a small percentage of negro in them.
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I predict the next elections will be surprising. Populism in Chile, just wait and see. Chileans before this uncontrolled immigration row already distrusted and were cynical of the the whole left-center-right famous name elite and of politicians in general. And when even the mainstream Chile media is taking a be tolerant line and ignoring or downplaying alternate voices where the only release are the comments sections of online news articles...
I predicted what is developing and WE as immigrants though non-impacting on costs to Chile and even benfi$ial will also get caught up in this pigsty.
I predicted what is developing and WE as immigrants though non-impacting on costs to Chile and even benfi$ial will also get caught up in this pigsty.
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The squeaky wheel is always the one that gets the attention , which is what comments on news articles are. Seems like it's a competition, as to who can be the most friggin outrageous with the bs unfiltered/fakenews/bot/politicalpartytrolls/ignorant/kneejerker comments on those articles. Why dont I hear everyday Chileans in the streets or at social events spouting the shit that I read on newspaper comments sections ? Mostly because those comments are from friggin keyboard warriors looking for their puto likes or thumbs up, let's see if at least 45 percent of them get off their arse and get out to vote . Maybe then I'll start to pay attention.eeuunikkeiexpat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:32 pmI predict the next elections will be surprising. Populism in Chile, just wait and see. Chileans before this uncontrolled immigration row already distrusted and were cynical of the the whole left-center-right famous name elite and of politicians in general. And when even the mainstream Chile media is taking a be tolerant line and ignoring or downplaying alternate voices where the only release are the comments sections of online news articles...
I predicted what is developing and WE as immigrants though non-impacting on costs to Chile and even benfi$ial will also get caught up in this pigsty.
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But they do, my Chilean wife even sometimes with me in presence (those that know I'm not a "poor" "uneducated" bad skin color - will not that bad a color - foreigner) have heard it but not to the candor and extreme of the comments.
Doubt any extranjero by themselves would hear such by the naturally passive-aggressive inscrutable Chileans especially with "education" (manners).
BTW, Santiago flaites, I have personally heard a couple of times of chino go back home or chino mierda/culiao and this was more than a decade back so I assume the sentiment against "undesirable" foreigners is worse now.
Ridicule, downplay, ignore or dismiss it with your solo blanco "inclusive" first-world POV as much as you want as it won't change the developing reality here in Chile.
Doubt any extranjero by themselves would hear such by the naturally passive-aggressive inscrutable Chileans especially with "education" (manners).
BTW, Santiago flaites, I have personally heard a couple of times of chino go back home or chino mierda/culiao and this was more than a decade back so I assume the sentiment against "undesirable" foreigners is worse now.
Ridicule, downplay, ignore or dismiss it with your solo blanco "inclusive" first-world POV as much as you want as it won't change the developing reality here in Chile.
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Oh dont you worry I will continue to ignore and or dismiss it.eeuunikkeiexpat wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:17 amBut they do, my Chilean wife even sometimes with me in presence (those that know I'm not a "poor" "uneducated" bad skin color - will not that bad a color - foreigner) have heard it but not to the candor and extreme of the comments.
Doubt any extranjero by themselves would hear such by the naturally passive-aggressive inscrutable Chileans especially with "education" (manners).
BTW, Santiago flaites, I have personally heard a couple of times of chino go back home or chino mierda/culiao and this was more than a decade back so I assume the sentiment against "undesirable" foreigners is worse now.
Ridicule, downplay, ignore or dismiss it with your solo blanco "inclusive" first-world POV as much as you want as it won't change the developing reality here in Chile.
You seem to have your own particular POV then, and I guess I have my own blanco "inclusivo" first world one
Oh and btw if you insist on continuing to make assumptions about my character/situation , I’ll advise you only this: assume you will always be wrong.
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