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Re: Housing market situation

Post by mem » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 am

admin wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:38 pm
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that was my big security breach of the week.

a chilean partridge.

I had to make a fast decision. Do i shoot him with my camera or wrist rocket. forum or fuego. forum or oven?
I cant tell from the pic, but does it have a really short curved beak? I saw a largeish bird land in our yard and I was immediatley surprised becasue it was bigger than the swallows and ibis and occasional Falcons we see but it has a very unique and short break. Wonder if it's the same bird

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by mem » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:45 am

mem wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 am
admin wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:38 pm
20191007_183555.jpg

that was my big security breach of the week.

a chilean partridge.

I had to make a fast decision. Do i shoot him with my camera or wrist rocket. forum or fuego. forum or oven?
I cant tell from the pic, but does it have a really short curved beak? I saw a largeish bird land in our yard and I was immediatley surprised becasue it was bigger than the swallows and ibis and occasional Falcons we see but it has a very unique and short break. Wonder if it's the same bird
Ah nevermind... looked it up and it's a totally different bird. My bird looked like a cross between a Turkey and a parrot...gotta figure this out

Yeah so this was my intruder I think..but mine was bigger than this pic

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by at46 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:09 am

41southchile wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:55 am
Baltimore wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:23 pm
Unless you move most of the government buildings down to, say, Valdivia or Concepción, I find it hard to believe that headquarter buildings in Santiago (think Sanhattan, all financial and consulting firms, etc) will move south because of the effects of climate change in central Chile. Vineyards and farms are already moving south because they have to, but unless we see massive investments in new infrastructure in some southern city(ies), I don't see a stampede of people from Santiago and the surrounding areas moving south anytime soon.

Young friends that have moved down south expecting to make $ while having a good quality of living are already back in Santiago, the only ones that remain south are the ones that had made some good $ working in profitable jobs in Santiago or mining companies (or abroad) BEFORE they moved south. Of course, this all depends on your expectations.

Hopefully I am wrong because I love the south and I look forward to see a less centralized country sometime in the future.
You right, theres never going to be a stampede, Santiago is not like Jakarta and sinking away. The most likely candidates for moving South are the retired, semi retired, self employed/ independents, branch office workers looking after this end of the country, hijitos o hijitas de papi with lots of money, homesteaders or those whose focus is not just money, teachers, doctors and other in demand jobs. Even if its eventually only 2 or 3 percent Chileans of Santiago descent, that's still potentially 150 k to 200k mas o menos, which imo would have a positive impact on the South (depending on who you are your opinion on that may differ).
The young friends you mention? What were they doing where the expected to make good money? If it was for someone else, chances are the had false expectations, the South generally doesn't pay as high a wage if your working for da man, as Santiago does.
I see some Santiago professionals like doctors looking for greener pastures due to the fierce competition from recent immigrants. Once you've dealt with a Venezuelan or Panamanian doctor, it's hard to convince yourself to try a Chilean :)

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by admin » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:04 pm

mem wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:45 am
mem wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:43 am
admin wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:38 pm
20191007_183555.jpg

that was my big security breach of the week.

a chilean partridge.

I had to make a fast decision. Do i shoot him with my camera or wrist rocket. forum or fuego. forum or oven?
I cant tell from the pic, but does it have a really short curved beak? I saw a largeish bird land in our yard and I was immediatley surprised becasue it was bigger than the swallows and ibis and occasional Falcons we see but it has a very unique and short break. Wonder if it's the same bird
Ah nevermind... looked it up and it's a totally different bird. My bird looked like a cross between a Turkey and a parrot...gotta figure this out

Yeah so this was my intruder I think..but mine was bigger than this pic

Image
Nope, definitly not that one.

Here is a better photo of them I took a few years ago.
viewtopic.php?t=12860#p154084
They look and act like a wild chicken.
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Britkid » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:16 pm

mem wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:31 pm
Wow only 3meters and now 4 meters?
I guess that is a bit encouraging...I don't know a lot about wells but I thought wells were generally closer to a minimum of 6 or 7 meters. If nothing else to avoid contamination from surface water seeping down

I guess santiago's water table is pretty high as in near the surface, perhaps there is much more water still to be tapped with more traditionally deep wells?
Actually sorry I made a mistake it was 4 metres and now it has been extended to 5.

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Baltimore » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:32 pm

Might be of your interest:

Addressing built-in biases in real estate investment
The value in taking a behavioural lens to commercial real estate investing

https://www.fidelity.co.uk/static/pdf/i ... estate.pdf

Nice little manual with suggestions from Fidelity International.
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by 41southchile » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:46 am

Britkid wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:16 pm
mem wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:31 pm
Wow only 3meters and now 4 meters?
I guess that is a bit encouraging...I don't know a lot about wells but I thought wells were generally closer to a minimum of 6 or 7 meters. If nothing else to avoid contamination from surface water seeping down

I guess santiago's water table is pretty high as in near the surface, perhaps there is much more water still to be tapped with more traditionally deep wells?
Actually sorry I made a mistake it was 4 metres and now it has been extended to 5.
It still doesn't seem very deep, so everyone where you live has their own well? And as these are for individual parcela use, you dont need to have those wells registered? Is that correct ? If they are not, there in lies part of the problem. How many tens of thousands of these shallow wells exist in RM? You cant work out to maximize water efficiency and water use without a clue on how much water is actually being taken. Just like the shitty farm ditch irrigation canals, I've never seen any flow meters on those, maybe the new ones have them, that water should be being piped and measured , is it? Maybe if water was measured and used more efficiently there would be a clearer idea of how to deal with the issues and what's available and how much less is now available or just anything really to do with efficient water management. Anyway, off topic I guess.
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by admin » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:37 am

i don't think there is a lack of water in the central regions; just a lack of investment in the infrastructure and management of the resources.

You got a relatively close ocean on one side, and a massive mountain range on the other. moving that water 100 km one way or the other, is hardly an unsolvable problem.

If there is a country that needs to worry, it is probably Argentina.

well drilling in chile is still a pretty expensive thing and is still done in a not very scientific way. Thus, all the hand dug wells. however, just the fact that surface water is so common, is a clue there is a lot more water deeper not being tapped.

Add to that all the convoluted water rights laws that encourage speculation or other inefficient uses of water.

but like a lot of things in chile, the government won't get off its rear to fix it untill whatever the crisis is becomes an embarrassing political crisis.
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Britkid » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:11 am

The wells are for individual use but this can vary by house. The house water supply we have is metered but goes to a large well inside the condominio rather than outside. The individual well for our garden is only for watering the grass.

As we rent, I don't look into the details that closely. No idea on registration.

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by admin » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:11 am

here, some statistic regarding single owner / investors of buildings for rent:

https://www.latercera.com/pulso-trader/ ... os/861015/
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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Britkid » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:14 pm

Admin, if I thought that southern Chile was going to do well, and wanted to invest in property there, but without actually buying a whole house, is that possible? Say I've only got US$5,000 that I'm willing to risk on this bet.

Is there a southern Chile investment property fund? They could buy a bunch of houses, and rent them out, and let people invest a small amount in the total fund, of the like that you might spend on stocks and shares. Does this exist?

Something you could invest it from a trusted vendor, without even having to go to the south. And so the fund would only go down if house prices in southern Chile went down.

I may have asked this before, but I don't think I ever found any way to do this.

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Re: Housing market situation

Post by Baltimore » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:27 pm

http://www.diarioestrategia.cl/texto-di ... tributario

451 contribuyentes tienen entre 51 y 100 viviendas

255 contribuyentes tienen entre 101 y 200 viviendas

62 contribuyentes tienen entre 201 y 300 viviendas

40 contribuyentes tienen entre 301 y 400 viviendas

28 contribuyentes tienen entre 401 y 500 viviendas

51 contribuyentes tienen entre 501 y 1.000 viviendas

23 contribuyentes tienen entre 1.000 y 2.000 viviendas y

25 contribuyentes tienen 2.001 y más viviendas

Let's see what comes out of the tax debate that is coming...

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