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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by admin » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:30 pm

I heard a rumor the other day that all the BS about the gas price increase only effects users of more than 1,000 liters or gallons a month. Essentially big companies.

Can anyone confirm that?
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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by admin » Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:47 pm

Yea, that is a shoot themselves in the foot strike on par with burning the only black owned bank in watts. No one in the central government or even slightly north is going to give a dam, because they are all on vacation. If anything the other tourism destinations just got a bunch of tourist rerouted to them at the last moment that had planned on visiting.

It sure is busy around the Lake here. Not sure it has anything to do with it, but it took 20 mins for to cross Frutillar Bajo this afternoon near the beach on my way home from lunch and it is only 10 blocks. If it gets any busier here (which it should), it will be faster for me to drive the other way around the lake to get home.
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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by scandinavian » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:42 am

admin wrote:I heard a rumor the other day that all the BS about the gas price increase only effects users of more than 1,000 liters or gallons a month. Essentially big companies.

Can anyone confirm that?
I read the same thing in La Tercera yesterday. As far as I recall, the article said that they will lower the upper threshold for receiving the subsidy from 25000m3 to 1000m3. That should only affect big consumers (ie businesses). Furthermore, the article stated that with the old subsidy, gas price in Magallanes was 1/8 of actual costs - with the price hike, the new gas price will be 1/7 of actual cost...

I have tried finding the article online, but can't seem to find it - it was in the Opinion & tendencias section I think.

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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by admin » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:05 pm

yea, water cannons and tear gas. Pack a lunch and a gas mask. Typically in Temuco the spectators would outnumbered the protesters by about 2,000 to 1, and normally the tear gas exploded at the feet of the rock throwing kids but the gas cloud would only develop in the crowd watching. Thus, the spectators were always moved to tears.

The sign that something is going to happen almost universally in Chile is when at the end of a regular old march the old people disappear and only a bunch of kids are left. At which time the water trucks charge. Don't ever get between a parked water cannon truck and the march. The tactic they use in Chile is a sudden fast charge at the crowd to scatter them with the trucks, and there is good chance you could get run over just by accident.
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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by janni » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:44 pm

Hey Patagoniax thanks for keeping in touch with this. PDT_Armataz_01_37

We just saw some young visitors off at the bus station headed southward out of Santiago, and were glad to find out what's happening. Or not. Hopefully not.

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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by Flapjack » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:37 pm

I arrived in puerto natales tuesday night on the last bus from punta arenas. Little indication of any demonstrations at the airport or in punta arenas besides the black flags. Had to pass through the semi-barricade, where protesters banged on the side of the bus as it slowly navigated the channel of vehicles. Police calmly monitored the activity from each end of the area. The protesters' tone was energetic but not threatening. Have spent the morning trying to find an open market to buy supplies and trying to hire a ride to the torres for tomorrow morning, with no luck on either front.

Any advice on finding groceries or a ride to the park would be much appreciated.

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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by JHyre » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:14 pm

Hey Px,

Nice posting, thanks for taking the time to do it. Now go fit in, burn a tire in the name of gas paid by someone else. After a nice long lunch, of course.

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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by Minty » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:30 pm

This just in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4AHA3F5 ... r_embedded

I know that Chile is having a hard time importing natgas, but does anyone have a feeling
for the rate of inflation due to the central banks interventions against peso strength?

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Re: Civil Strife Southern Patagonia Jnuary 2011

Post by mish787 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:30 pm

I am currently stuck in Punta Arenas. First time in Chile and what a warm welcome. :shock:

Wondering if anyone knows what is the situation with the airport. I heard it is open and planes are operating.
However is there any way for me to get from Punta Arenas town to the airport itself and is it safe...
What if I get a transfer up to the roadblock, me walk past it and then get another transfer after the block to the airport - is this possible or will I likely be thrown at with rocks or killed by crazy protesters.

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