coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:14 pm

the media is on fire over the senator that claims to be infected twice.

he tested positive, was sick, recovered, got sick again, and tested positive. which there are only a million explanations. a double infection would be pretty low probability relative to all the other explanations for that. Top on my list would be a politician needing some attention, but need a lot more information.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:47 pm

yea on the declining cases, even if that is the case, I find it hard to get too excited.

again, that is one clandestine party cluster of cases, that could have happened two weeks ago, and they are not even known yet.

30 days of declining cases, then we can at least start taking the possibility seriously.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by nwdiver » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:02 pm

admin wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:14 pm
the media is on fire over the senator that claims to be infected twice.

he tested positive, was sick, recovered, got sick again, and tested positive. which there are only a million explanations. a double infection would be pretty low probability relative to all the other explanations for that. Top on my list would be a politician needing some attention, but need a lot more information.
A friend tested positive 3 times in 7 weeks before testing negative, he was low level fever once then aches all over 2 weeks later......he wasn’t reinfected he had the virus in his system for 6-8 weeks, or more. This appears to be fairly common.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:59 pm

nwdiver wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:02 pm
admin wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:14 pm
the media is on fire over the senator that claims to be infected twice.

he tested positive, was sick, recovered, got sick again, and tested positive. which there are only a million explanations. a double infection would be pretty low probability relative to all the other explanations for that. Top on my list would be a politician needing some attention, but need a lot more information.
A friend tested positive 3 times in 7 weeks before testing negative, he was low level fever once then aches all over 2 weeks later......he wasn’t reinfected he had the virus in his system for 6-8 weeks, or more. This appears to be fairly common.
Those stories are all over the place, and it is well established that the PCR will comeback positive once you got the RNA fragments in your system. That is what I am thinking this is, just a case that never really finished.

14 days is a recommendation based on how long you are contagious, not a magic date when you are well.

There is a fairly famous epidemiologist out of the U.k., that says he is going on like 4 months of symptoms. He said in an interview even other epidemiologist he works with are not believing him anymore.
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Post by admin » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:12 pm

so fauci is saying the u.s. could hit 100,000 new cases a day. which sounds like a crazy big number, except the u.s. is already at 40,000 a day. multiple by 10 for the undiagnosed cases, and 100,000 a day might be a conservative number.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/30/fau ... a-day.html
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:23 pm

frutillar has its own little outbreak going.
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I multiple that by 10 too.

I had the heart warming thought about small towns the other day.

If there is say a couple hundred cases in the wild, in such a small town the probability of crossing paths with someone that is contagious is pretty high. There are two grocery stores in town, there are two gas stations, etc.

The person that tipped us off that there were a lot more cases in town than had been officially diagnosed was our gas guy. He was dropping off tanks a couple of weeks ago, and we got to talking about the situation in town, he said, "There are more than a few sick people among my regular customers, a lot more than the government numbers indicate".

It was almost week later the numbers started spiking and have kept on climbing.

minsal should hire him, and send him with PCR tests as he delivers gas.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:16 pm

Government Report:

2,650 new cases, 282,043 total confirmed cases

30,847 active cases

65 new deaths, 5,753 total deaths (as reported to the civil register in the last 24 hour)

2,075 in icu, 1,720 on ventilators

274 ventilators available

10,385 tests conducted, 1,120,177 total tests completed
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:33 am

well the United States hit 50,000 new confirmed infections in one day.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:12 am

so, if the u.s. is just doing the 10x officially diagnosed there is 500,000 new cases in the wild.

given the blatant widespread national policy of ignoring the pandemic, it really could x20 times. a million new cases a day, diagnosed and not diagnosed. If not now, by end of the july 4th weekend.

so much for virus disappearing durring the summer.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:47 pm

Government Report:

2,498 new cases, 284,541 total confirmed cases

29,374 active cases

167 new deaths, 5,920 total deaths (as reported to the civil register in the last 24 hour)

1,762 on ventilators, 405 critcal

276 ventilators available

10,831 tests conducted, 1,131,008 total tests completed, with a 23,000 test a day capacity.

various NOTES:

24% decrease in cases over the last 7 days nation wide.

They have stopped sending patients to regions from Santiago, and have started bringing patients in to Santiago from the regions.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by scandinavian » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:24 pm

RE testing and my former comments, then today a reporter actually asked repeatedly about why the total test numbers are so low.
According to the subsecretary, then it is because less people with symptoms are requiring testing - Especially in RM. No delays or backlog, no lack of test equipment, etc.
If that holds true, then things sure look like they have turned for the better in RM. Fingers crossed.

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by nwdiver » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm

It’s all about flattening the curve, Chile may have started, now if they stick with it good for Chile........
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