State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by RuneTheChookcha » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:18 pm

There is some serious confrontation.

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... eros.shtml

The traces of tear gas or smoke are visible near the central market (this is 3 quarters from the congress building and the main conflict areas).

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by RuneTheChookcha » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:22 pm

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I can imagine how unbreathable the air is from the tear gas. Yet again. The main food shopping area around the market seems to have this kind of atmosphere every day, these days.

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by fraggle092 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:39 pm

If the peaceful protesters get to Congress, the petrol bombs will start, as has happened every night after these manifestations. Already reports of fires in the area.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by fraggle092 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:48 pm

According to our friendly Carabinero, their quartel in Coquimbo was attacked last night. No news mention. Looks like the authorities have asked the media to restrict their coverage.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by fraggle092 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:05 pm

CNN news ticker showing states of emergency being declared in virtually every city in Chile. (No Details)
But another ticker item states that all states of emergency will be lifted tonight.. :roll: ..
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by 41southchile » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:15 pm

This isn't Chile's first rodeo, indeed what did make Chile tick before mass transit and supers ? Maybe the same things that made it tick after those things came in . I know its wiki but gives a quick overall history, anyone seem to see a pattern here? These issues being going on since before Pinochet and Allende were mere sparkles in their father's eyes.
Anyone ever come across any good sources of economic history of Chile? Preferably in English.


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Starting in 1873, Chile's economy deteriorated. Chilean wheat exports were outcompeted by production in Canada, Russia, and Argentina. Chilean copper was largely replaced in international markets by copper from the United States and Río Tinto in Spain. Chile's silver mining income also dropped. In the mid-1870s, Peru nationalized its nitrate industry, affecting both British and Chilean interests.Contemporaries considered the crisis the worst ever of independent Chile. Chilean newspaper El Ferrocarril predicted 1879 to be "a year of mass business liquidation". In 1878, then-President Anibal Pinto expressed his concern through the following statement:.

“ If a new mining discovery or some novelty of that sort does not come to improve the actual situation, the crisis that has long been felt will worsen ”
— Anibal Pinto, president of Chile, 1878.

The opening of Panama Canal in 1914 caused a severe drop in traffic along Chilean ports due to shifts in the maritime trade routes.In addition to this international trade collapsed and state income was reduced to half of its previous value after the start of the World War I in 1914.The Haber process, first applied on an industrial scale in 1913 and later used as part of Germany's war effort due to its lack of access to Chilean saltpetre, ended Chile's monopoly on nitrate and led to an economic decline in Chile.
The Great Depression that begun 1929 was felt strongly in Chile from 1930 to 1932.Saltpetre and copper exports collapsed.The World Economic Survey of the League of Nations declared Chile the worst affected nation by the depression.
The decline in the economic growth from 1953 onwards was variously attributed to excessive state intervention, neglect of agriculture and mining, unequal wealth distribution and dependency on state intervention.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by 41southchile » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:19 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:05 pm
CNN news ticker showing states of emergency being declared in virtually every city in Chile. (No Details)
But another ticker item states that all states of emergency will be lifted tonight.. :roll: ..
Not seeing anything on most news sites, apart from that states of emergency finish tonight and news from earlier this afternoon, well its Sunday I guess even journalists need a break after the last week.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by RuneTheChookcha » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:51 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:39 pm
If the peaceful protesters get to Congress, the petrol bombs will start, as has happened every night after these manifestations. Already reports of fires in the area.
Multiple fires.

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:52 pm

I really dread what happens at 12 am when the militars pack it away.

This past Monday, it was only because of that state of emergency that centro Llolleo was saved.

And now, since the end of curfew, Llolleo was instantly attacked: banks, a phar macy, supermarkets, other businesses.

And at 12 am, the militars diran chao and it is all carabineros...

This seems designed to promote another cycle of FUD among the populace. By Wednesday, we will have long lines like Santiasco at the remaining supermarkets or maybe none will be.

Now, I strongly condemn the irresponsibility of Piraña and the political manipulation he is involved in at the expense of the residents.

Suerte, see you on the other side of this end of emergency, we are indeed pawns...

FUCK THE LEFT, MANO DURA and then talk dickheads.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by Britkid » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm

To mention something slightly different....I was writing earlier about how many Chile things would have to pay for, from more pensions to fixing metro stations.

I checked online and found some good news. Chile's amount of debt is good.

The world average for all countries is 60% of annual GDP in debt.

Japan and Greece are in the worst state at about 200%.
UK and US are nearer 100%.

Chile is about 25%. Better than most countries.

Sources:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... 6rank.html
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countr ... onal-debt/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... ublic_debt

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by 41southchile » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:02 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:52 pm
I really dread what happens at 12 am when the militars pack it away.

This past Monday, it was only becasue of that state of emergency that centro Llolleo was saved.

And now, since the end of curfew, Llolleo was instantly attacked: banks, supermarkets, other businesses.

And at 12 am, the militars diren chao and it is all carabineros...

This seems designed to promote another cycle of FUD among the populace. By Wednesday, we will have long lines like Santiasco at the remaining supermarkets or maybe none will be.

Now, I strongly state the irresponsibility of Piraña and the political manipulation he is involved in at the expense of the residents.

Suerte, see you on the other side of this end of emergency, we are indeed pawns...

FUCK THE LEFT
Yup, it is total political manipulation , Piñera wants the flaites and 2 bit crims to ramsack and burn the place like the predictable actors they are. People will then say bring back the military, bring back the curfew, we need a hard line or maybe the left will looses some more support? Anyones guess I suppose, that could be one of a number of scenarios that play out over the next day or two.

Bar and restaurant owners and other commercial operators are begging for the military and curfew to stay apparantly in Santiago, everyone's worried about these peaceful protesters. 🙄

Good luck .
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:07 pm

here is the decree lifting the state of emergency at midnight.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... encia.html
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