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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:53 am

so here is the bluntest statement about what the unlimited migration push wants, from bachelet's buddy, angel merkel:
"Nation states must today be prepared to give up their sovereignty", according to German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who told an audience in Berlin that sovereign nation states must not listen to the will of their citizens when it comes to questions of immigration, borders, or even sovereignty.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12- ... orld-order
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:17 pm

well, way to go again Bachelet.

Chileans xenophobia is growing:

https://www.df.cl/noticias/economia-y-p ... 52034.html
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:17 pm

well, way to go again Bachelet.

Chileans xenophobia is growing:

https://www.df.cl/noticias/economia-y-p ... 52034.html
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:42 pm

The return of the Chilean Neo Nazis can't be far behind. And as things swing wildly, we legal, no-impact immigrants will get caught up in some of the reactions just because we are in the foreigner category.

My first, page one post on this very thread foretold what was to come if the screws weren't placed early on. Oh well, so be it, we will have to deal with it.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:43 am

I showed the article to my wife that was like, 'someone actually had to do a survey to find out Chileans are a bunch of xenophobic racists'?

She has always said it comes with the isolation of the Andes Mountains.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by fraggle092 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:36 am

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From today's EMOL:
In 2018, Immigrants accounted for 12% of all registered births in Chile.

There will be a backlash once this phenomenon begins to penetrate the Chilean self-absorption that is often mistaken for tolerance. Its already happening in less culturally primitive countries than this one.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:47 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:36 am
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From today's EMOL:
In 2018, Immigrants accounted for 12% of all registered births in Chile.

There will be a backlash once this phenomenon begins to penetrate the Chilean self-absorption that is often mistaken for tolerance. Its already happening in less culturally primitive countries than this one.
have a look at those comments though under it. pretty much the stake in the heart of the socialist party, communist party, or however they try to rebrand themselves. the poor got screwed by them, and they are turning against them in a big way. it will take several generations before the new imigrants are a sufficient force to save the left in chile from it's own sucide mission. any politician that is pro-immigration now, and needs votes from a middle class or poor electorate is toast.

which fine by me. they also tended to be the biggest bunch of corrupt thieves.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by fraggle092 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:51 pm

An article by Fernando Thauby published in today's El Mostrador questions the passively complicit role of Chilean authorities, and the press, in the Haitian "tourist" influx of the past few years.

Why was it allowed to continue as long as it did in the full knowledge that the operation was a fraud?
El problema es que nadie, absolutamente nadie denunció un posible delito que todos los chilenos estábamos viendo a diario y en todo el país.
And the reason it happened? Sr. Thauby speculates that it was done to highlight Bachelet's humanitarian credentials in order to assist her (eventually successful) bid for future employment at the U.N. as Human Rights Commissioner.
Coetáneamente, la ex presidente Bachelet postulaba al cargo de Alto Comisionado de las NNUU para los DDHH, y el problema de la migración y su transformación en derecho humano universal y exigible estaba en debate global. No es aventurado considerar que permitir la entrada de un grupo de inmigrantes de alta visibilidad e impacto noticioso contribuyó a fortalecer sus méritos para el cargo.
Surprising article for a publication apparently funded by the DC. Be interesting to see some reaction, but here, unpleasant truths tend to drop into black holes.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:21 am

LOCK HER UP!!! :lol:

she should have been prosecuted for the deaths from the tsunami.

yea, i just don't get the, what is the end game? what is the gain, when it is obvious political sucide?

merkel is in the same camp in the EU.

are they realy that big of true believers in marxisism, to risk their careers and legacies at all costs? for some haiten immigrants?

does not add up.

just before that last post i was thinking what the long-term effect on politics in chile.

the far left's power has been in decline for some time, this one is just the end of the old school communist, socialist, and left leaning DC. it will force any up and coming politicians, if they want to have a chance to be elected move more center right.

let's face it for about half or more of the politicisns on the left it was never about "helping the people". it was about job security and a fat pay check. they will bend to which ever direction the political winds are blowing.

i am not however sure that is a good thing. keeping that center political keel has kept chile out of a lot of trouble that many other countries in latin america have faced.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by fraggle092 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:40 pm

admin wrote:
Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:21 am

let's face it for about half or more of the politicisns on the left it was never about "helping the people". it was about job security and a fat pay check. they will bend to which ever direction the political winds are blowing.
More like:
let's face it for about half or more of the politicians ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶e̶f̶t̶ it was never about "helping the people". it was about job security and a fat pay check. they will bend to which ever direction the political winds are blowing.

All the pols have their snouts in the same trough:

Controversial NY commercial attaché resigns
Smelling nepotism critics focused on Bachelet Coto’s young age and professional inexperience. Normally, seasoned bureaucrats from the foreign ministry or one of its branches vie in internal contests for the attaché position, which draws a CLP$10 million (US$15,000) monthly salary. But Piñera sidelined the experts.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:52 am

oh, that is nothing. the foreign affairs ministry and the consulates outside of chile have been a cesspool of nepotism and corruption for decades; never mind half the "councilors" outside chile are "honorary councils" that are not even chileans. they are foreigners that often times don't even speak spanish, let alone know much about chile.

my wife's uncle spent nearly 40 years working in the diplomatic core. among other things he was at one time the head of the U.N. mission in new york. towards the end of his career he was named special council / auditor of the foreign affairs ministry, in charge of investigating the embassies overseas. Let's just say he was forced in to retirement about 6 months after taking that job. no one was too interested in turning over all those rocks.
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Re: chile's migration crisis

Post by admin » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:23 am

well the new immigration law passed the lower house and is off to the senate.

let me caution, everything you read in the media about this law and it's current state or what it will do is probably wrong:

http://www.ellanquihue.cl/impresa/2019/ ... ncipal/10/

like chadwick, the minister of the interior, has repeatdedly domonstrated his complete ignorance of the immigration system every time he opens his mouth. so too most of the comments you see about it under articles.

this law has a long way to go before anyone can even definitvly say what is in it.
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