chile's migration crisis
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- 41southchile
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Re: chile's migration crisis
Here you Gloria I imagine you will be pleased by this news, as I seem to recall you mentioning that Haitians should be doing more to fight back in their shit hole country
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/ ... ross-haiti
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/ ... ross-haiti
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Shit hole country? No Gloria-san did not say that, the culprit is Mr Trumpster the foul mouth..He,he,hee41southchile wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:04 pmHere you Gloria I imagine you will be pleased by this news, as I seem to recall you mentioning that Haitians should be doing more to fight back in their shit hole country
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/ ... ross-haiti
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Haha exacto. Thats who I was thinking of. One of the few things I agreed with him on, I am sure many people think the same thing, and feel in the case of Haiti it is a fairly accurate descripción.HybridAmbassador wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:25 pmShit hole country? No Gloria-san did not say that, the culprit is Mr Trumpster the foul mouth..He,he,hee41southchile wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:04 pmHere you Gloria I imagine you will be pleased by this news, as I seem to recall you mentioning that Haitians should be doing more to fight back in their shit hole country
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/ ... ross-haiti
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Re: chile's migration crisis
well the flights are starting. seems a 1000+ haitens have signed up so far.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/wo ... --10907590
the left in chile is of course not happy to have their future voters leaving.
seems colombians are requesting the same option.
i think the major benfit is not realy the number of people leaving, but that hopefully those returning provide a first hand reality check back in haiti on anyone thinking of moving to chile.
as mentioned in the article, probably the most important reality check, is people realize chile is a racist country. a black person (even a slighlt dark latino) in chile is going to struggle to integrate, and what they can do, how far they can go, will be limited. that is simply not going to change anytime soon.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/wo ... --10907590
the left in chile is of course not happy to have their future voters leaving.
seems colombians are requesting the same option.
i think the major benfit is not realy the number of people leaving, but that hopefully those returning provide a first hand reality check back in haiti on anyone thinking of moving to chile.
as mentioned in the article, probably the most important reality check, is people realize chile is a racist country. a black person (even a slighlt dark latino) in chile is going to struggle to integrate, and what they can do, how far they can go, will be limited. that is simply not going to change anytime soon.
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176 people is a tiny drop in a barrel. Every Hatian in the country will be having their own experiences. Here in Villarrica I'd say over 95% of them are working which debunks the generalisation about bosses, skin colour and racism. I wonder at the actual make up of the 176.
Included would be the mentally ill, there's one of those I haven't seen for about 6 weeks, and another will be a bloke who threw rocks through the front windows of the Tricot store one evening a couple of months ago because he wanted to be deported home.
I've met 3 here so far who speak excellent English and was recently told by the Chilean boss of a German company that he's met several who speak German, one of whom he employs. He did have some concerns though that some Haitens are probably living isolated and in slave like conditions on campos.
Included would be the mentally ill, there's one of those I haven't seen for about 6 weeks, and another will be a bloke who threw rocks through the front windows of the Tricot store one evening a couple of months ago because he wanted to be deported home.
I've met 3 here so far who speak excellent English and was recently told by the Chilean boss of a German company that he's met several who speak German, one of whom he employs. He did have some concerns though that some Haitens are probably living isolated and in slave like conditions on campos.
Re: chile's migration crisis
176 people is a tiny drop in a barrel. Every Hatian in the country will be having their own experiences. Here in Villarrica I'd say over 95% of them are working which debunks the generalisation about bosses, skin colour and racism. I wonder at the actual make up of the 176.
Included would be the mentally ill, there's one of those I haven't seen for about 6 weeks, and another will be a bloke who threw rocks through the front windows of the Tricot store one evening a couple of months ago because he wanted to be deported home.
I've met 3 here so far who speak excellent English and was recently told by the Chilean boss of a German company that he's met several who speak German, one of whom he employs. He did have some concerns though that some Haitens are probably living isolated and in slave like conditions on campos.
Included would be the mentally ill, there's one of those I haven't seen for about 6 weeks, and another will be a bloke who threw rocks through the front windows of the Tricot store one evening a couple of months ago because he wanted to be deported home.
I've met 3 here so far who speak excellent English and was recently told by the Chilean boss of a German company that he's met several who speak German, one of whom he employs. He did have some concerns though that some Haitens are probably living isolated and in slave like conditions on campos.
Re: chile's migration crisis
na i think it is a political show more than anything, but at least there has been some organization and control to the chaose the bachelet administration created.
my concern is with the number of HIV and other expensive, hard to treat, medical conditions that were imported. it would be nice to see some stats out of the health authority on the strain to the public health system related to this immigration wave.
one AIDS patient, has got to cost an easy 100,000 to 200,000 dollars a year to treat. basicaly it take the productivity and tax base generated by something like 10 immigrant to make up for the one that will need advanced medical care. that explodes if it is an infectious diese. that is aside from a population coming from countries with no medical system that have had their health neglected. in 10 years, this is all going to go from an immigrant crisis to a public health system crisis, in a public health system that is already stretched thin and prepping for a demographic wave of older chileans to deal with.
my concern is with the number of HIV and other expensive, hard to treat, medical conditions that were imported. it would be nice to see some stats out of the health authority on the strain to the public health system related to this immigration wave.
one AIDS patient, has got to cost an easy 100,000 to 200,000 dollars a year to treat. basicaly it take the productivity and tax base generated by something like 10 immigrant to make up for the one that will need advanced medical care. that explodes if it is an infectious diese. that is aside from a population coming from countries with no medical system that have had their health neglected. in 10 years, this is all going to go from an immigrant crisis to a public health system crisis, in a public health system that is already stretched thin and prepping for a demographic wave of older chileans to deal with.
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Re: chile's migration crisis
I'm a director of a company that distributes generic AIDs meds in South Africa, short of major complications it costs $120-140 per year to maintain an individual.......far lower than 100-200kadmin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:48 pmna i think it is a political show more than anything, but at least there has been some organization and control to the chaose the bachelet administration created.
my concern is with the number of HIV and other expensive, hard to treat, medical conditions that were imported. it would be nice to see some stats out of the health authority on the strain to the public health system related to this immigration wave.
one AIDS patient, has got to cost an easy 100,000 to 200,000 dollars a year to treat. basicaly it take the productivity and tax base generated by something like 10 immigrant to make up for the one that will need advanced medical care. that explodes if it is an infectious diese. that is aside from a population coming from countries with no medical system that have had their health neglected. in 10 years, this is all going to go from an immigrant crisis to a public health system crisis, in a public health system that is already stretched thin and prepping for a demographic wave of older chileans to deal with.
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Re: chile's migration crisis
yes, if you can keep it in check, the costs have come way down. the problem is the secondary complicatii
ons from a compromised immune system. there was an article i seen (think i linked to it earlier) how something like 80% of the hiv positive haitens in haiti also have multiple drug resistent TB. add to that things like variations of hepitis and so on. even just ho hum numonia, can lead to expensive hospitialization in someone with aids.
ons from a compromised immune system. there was an article i seen (think i linked to it earlier) how something like 80% of the hiv positive haitens in haiti also have multiple drug resistent TB. add to that things like variations of hepitis and so on. even just ho hum numonia, can lead to expensive hospitialization in someone with aids.
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Interesting. Sorry for unrelated, but what do you think about the Apotex murder? https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/canadia ... e-say.htmlnwdiver wrote: ↑Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:46 amI'm a director of a company that distributes generic AIDs meds in South Africa, short of major complications it costs $120-140 per year to maintain an individual.......far lower than 100-200kadmin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:48 pmna i think it is a political show more than anything, but at least there has been some organization and control to the chaose the bachelet administration created.
my concern is with the number of HIV and other expensive, hard to treat, medical conditions that were imported. it would be nice to see some stats out of the health authority on the strain to the public health system related to this immigration wave.
one AIDS patient, has got to cost an easy 100,000 to 200,000 dollars a year to treat. basicaly it take the productivity and tax base generated by something like 10 immigrant to make up for the one that will need advanced medical care. that explodes if it is an infectious diese. that is aside from a population coming from countries with no medical system that have had their health neglected. in 10 years, this is all going to go from an immigrant crisis to a public health system crisis, in a public health system that is already stretched thin and prepping for a demographic wave of older chileans to deal with.
Re: chile's migration crisis
so here comes the u.n. agreement that makes all migration a human right.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11- ... uman-right
bachelet is right in the thick of it.
there is a not so fine line between freedom of movement, and the continued existence of a sovereign state. once a country starts giving up the right to determine who resides inside its boarders and why, the boarders themselves start making no sense, and so does the government.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11- ... uman-right
bachelet is right in the thick of it.
there is a not so fine line between freedom of movement, and the continued existence of a sovereign state. once a country starts giving up the right to determine who resides inside its boarders and why, the boarders themselves start making no sense, and so does the government.
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Ah you beat me to posting this. Apparently it is written by the Mexican and Swiss representative.admin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:40 amso here comes the u.n. agreement that makes all migration a human right.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11- ... uman-right
bachet is right in the thick of it.
there is a not so fine line between freedom of movement, and the continued existence of a soveriegn state. once a country statrs giving up the right to determeni who resides inside its boarders and why, the boarders themselves start making no sense, and so does the goverment.
I dont think a lot of the countries that are supposedly going to sign it really have read it.
Even though it is non-binding, there is so much of it that is utterly impractical to say nothing of the issues of national sovereignty infringement.
It really seems like they are trying to freight train this through.
I just can't believe that Pinera is going to allow Chile to sign this. Has anyone seen anything in the Chilean press about this?