Spanish is hard

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nikotromus
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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by nikotromus » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:34 am

I don't doubt it.

This whole stealing culture is hard to get used to. Not that we've experienced any of it first hand yet but we've now talked to plenty of real life people who have been effected by it. It's all so foreign.

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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by fraggle092 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:17 pm

First comes Transmission. That's learning words and grammar.
Then Reception, developing an "ear" to make sense of the gabble.

Finally comes Decryption and Interpretation.
To do that you have to learn to think and behave like a Latino, and that takes a long time. Even after you have become reasonably fluent, the expression of unfiltered gringo thoughts and emotions can provoke unintended reactions.
nikotromus wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:34 am
This whole stealing culture is hard to get used to. Not that we've experienced any of it first hand yet but we've now talked to plenty of real life people who have been effected by it. It's all so foreign.
Yes, don't let the signs fool you. Its alien thinking here, as in all Latino countries.

What Gloria said in her last posts is spot-on btw, aproveche, Don Otto.....

Looking on the positive side, if you can survive successfully here, the lessons learned can be usefully applied anywhere in the world, since that's the way its headed.
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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by Rhodolite » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:21 pm

The national sport of Chile is not soccer. It is theft.

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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by Mainecoons » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:37 pm

If it is any consolation Spanish ranks second after Japanese in the rapidity of speaking by the natives. If you think you have a problem, try having a serious hearing/cognitive disability. I'm in the same place, I can speak Spanish decently, conjugate the verbs 6 different ways and read it quite well. But I can't hear it worth a damn. Have tried everything but my old brain just can't handle it.

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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by David_Bro » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:38 pm

Who ever it is with the free rent idea-----why would you need that, you have all Chile outside your door?=====go to church, a pub, take out items to get repaired----talk to people!!!!----join a club go to the park just get out and you will learn it all

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Re: Spanish is hard

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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:58 pm

For those who don't know, David_Bro is a very long termer though currently not resident at present (lived/witnessed Allende-Pino and aftermath) and his wisdom and advice should be respected. He predates PX here on the forum and was in fact essentially a "founder" under a different avatar.
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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by tiagoabner » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:28 pm

In case you don't know where to find a Spanish-practice group, there's a website named MeetUp where you can arrange that. There are dozens of Spanish exchange groups and you can easily find one that suits your agenda.
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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:23 pm

OK, he sucks, listen to every three month expert, they definitely know the shit.
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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:30 pm

What is strange for me, my ear is better than my speech. I can understand them 60-85%+ when they speak to me but they can't understand what the hell I'm saying in response.
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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by Rhodolite » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:15 pm

Or... you are speaking correctly but the person you are speaking to is not accustomed to hearing the entire word. In this area, everyone says "tuto" very fast, no drawn out "u" when they refer to 'trutro'. Ask for a trutro and you're SOL. Might as well be speaking Klingon.

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Re: Spanish is hard

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:36 pm

Spanish speaking natives from other countries seem to understand me but with Chileans, I am SOL unless they are already used to hearing native English speakers mangle their language.
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