Starving Cuba

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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:15 pm

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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by HybridAmbassador » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:55 pm

mlightheart wrote:
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gringalais wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but there is a pronounciation difference. Maybe you need to get your Spanish books out and figure out what it is.
Always barging in.....MYOFB ! Then show me your Castellano proficiency...I can see your back but can not see mine.
Mind you but every Chilenos when me whilst there understood me perfectly.. ha ha ha.. Also understood them clearly, so no needing to tell me to open any books.
Ricky-san then you must have been very fortunate indeed. This train of thought kind of reminds me of bridge and chopsticks, which I believe are spelled the same in Romanized Japanese. The difference being in the syllable accented. There is also a third word spelled the same which doesn't have an accented syllable. There are a number of other words that come to mind like these. There are a number of words like these in the Japanese language that foreigners have difficulty with. What does this have to do with the topic, nothing. Chill out and take it easy. :mrgreen:
kind of reminds me of bridge and chopsticks,
It is in the "pitch accent".. Yeah the Hashi ( 箸 ) as the _chop stick_ or Hashi ( 橋 ) as the bridge, its differentiation is in the Kanji writing but phonetically it almost sound as if they were the same. The dissimilarity is in the pitch accent,
when western Japanese ( Kansai genre ) or Eastern-Central Japanese ( Kanto ) speak then comprehension of the two similar pronounced "Hashi's" is the same or very different..
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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by gringalais » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:56 pm

HybridAmbassador wrote:
gringalais wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but there is a pronounciation difference. Maybe you need to get your Spanish books out and figure out what it is.
Always barging in.....MYOFB ! Then show me your Castellano proficiency...I can see your back but can not see mine.
Mind you but every Chilenos when me whilst there understood me perfectly.. ha ha ha.. Also understood them clearly, so no needing to tell me to open any books.
I know I said I was done with the topic and I debated whether I should even bother responding, but I guess I feel unjustly attacked and need to defend myself.

First of all, I find it quite ironic that you got mad at me for correcting your statement, when a bit above in the thread you corrected someone’s spelling of Colombia. So, why do you think you can you correct people, but I can’t? I honestly thought it would be useful to draw your mistake to your attention. If you want to live here, I would hope you would want to achieve proficiency in the language, rather than just getting by.

I also found it interesting that you accuse me of butting in, when you seem to have to respond to almost every thread, often without contributing much.

I shouldn’t have to send you my résumé. However, for the sake of argument, I’ll give you a quick summary. I have a BA in Spanish, which included studying abroad in Spain. I have lived in Chile for nearly 13 years in total. I was here in the 1990’s and then came back in 2002. I have lived here ever since and frequently travel to other South American countries. I have worked in translation for well over a decade and have also done interpretation work in the last several years. Oh, and I often am assumed to be a native Spanish speaker.

Sadly, the tone here seems to have gotten pretty negative these days, with some people feeling the need to attack harmless comments. Maybe I need to take a break for a bit.

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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by HybridAmbassador » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:59 pm

gringalais wrote:
HybridAmbassador wrote:
gringalais wrote:Hate to burst your bubble, but there is a pronounciation difference. Maybe you need to get your Spanish books out and figure out what it is.
Always barging in.....MYOFB ! Then show me your Castellano proficiency...I can see your back but can not see mine.
Mind you but every Chilenos when me whilst there understood me perfectly.. ha ha ha.. Also understood them clearly, so no needing to tell me to open any books.
I know I said I was done with the topic and I debated whether I should even bother responding, but I guess I feel unjustly attacked and need to defend myself.

First of all, I find it quite ironic that you got mad at me for correcting your statement, when a bit above in the thread you corrected someone’s spelling of Colombia. So, why do you think you can you correct people, but I can’t? I honestly thought it would be useful to draw your mistake to your attention. If you want to live here, I would hope you would want to achieve proficiency in the language, rather than just getting by.

I also found it interesting that you accuse me of butting in, when you seem to have to respond to almost every thread, often without contributing much.

I shouldn’t have to send you my résumé. However, for the sake of argument, I’ll give you a quick summary. I have a BA in Spanish, which included studying abroad in Spain. I have lived in Chile for nearly 13 years in total. I was here in the 1990’s and then came back in 2002. I have lived here ever since and frequently travel to other South American countries. I have worked in translation for well over a decade and have also done interpretation work in the last several years. Oh, and I often am assumed to be a native Spanish speaker.

Sadly, the tone here seems to have gotten pretty negative these days, with some people feeling the need to attack harmless comments. Maybe I need to take a break for a bit.
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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by JHyre » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:17 pm

Gringalais,

Not looking to pick a fight with you at all with this response. My perception: The way you posed the correction struck me as quite harsh. This is in contrast to my perception of H.A.'s comment to me, which in keeping with his general demeanor, struck me as tongue in cheek. Could be I'm all wet, "perception" and "email" are often a formula for "Man, did I completely misunderstand". Re-read it, maybe you'll agree, maybe not. Just my two cents.

John Hyre

PS: Good to know your Spanish creds. I grew up speaking it, but never had any formal training. I may periodically borrow some of that expertise if you'll permit me. I struggle some with formal Spanish, such as the legalese.

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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by HybridAmbassador » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:33 pm

JHyre wrote:Gringalais,

Not looking to pick a fight with you at all with this response. My perception: The way you posed the correction struck me as quite harsh. This is in contrast to my perception of H.A.'s comment to me, which in keeping with his general demeanor, struck me as tongue in cheek. Could be I'm all wet, "perception" and "email" are often a formula for "Man, did I completely misunderstand". Re-read it, maybe you'll agree, maybe not. Just my two cents.

John Hyre

Yeah, to keep stirring the pot, HA's demeanour stinks but my fart dosen't ha,ha,haaa..
BA laureats? I have one too but only good to wipe the residue off....I have to come-back soon again to become more proficient in Chilean spanish so to rival hers!
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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by JHyre » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:39 pm

Yeah, to keep stirring the pot, HA's demeanour stinks but my fart dosen't ha,ha,haaa..
Umm, are we 12 today? Really? Body-fluid humor? You normally do much better than that - or some teenager in the basement hacked your emails. Further, I did not say your attitude (normally) stinks. Just that you like poking a bit of usually harmless fun. Which is how I took your critique of my spelling. A bit of harmless fun at my expense.

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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:41 pm

Damn, hate to see long time forumites some of whom I know in person going at it.

And Cuba, never heard of it!
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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by HybridAmbassador » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:47 pm

JHyre wrote:
Yeah, to keep stirring the pot, HA's demeanour stinks but my fart dosen't ha,ha,haaa..
Umm, are we 12 today? Really? Body-fluid humor? You normally do much better than that - or some teenager in the basement hacked your emails. Further, I did not say your attitude (normally) stinks. Just that you like poking a bit of usually harmless fun. Which is how I took your critique of my spelling. A bit of harmless fun at my expense.

<sigh>

John Hyre

Mr.Master of the universe, Not to your reference, not you..You are too grandiose so not be counted as a snippet! I meant the BA bragging ....
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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by HybridAmbassador » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:50 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:Damn, hate to see long time forumites some of whom I know in person going at it.

And Cuba, never heard of it!
OK, I just uncorked the Suntory Yamazaki, too early in PST but need to savour the dessert before lunch!

Do you still have some left? If not, will send you the refill !
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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by JHyre » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:50 pm

Mr.Master of the universe, Not to your reference, not you..You are too grandiose so not be counted as a snippet! I meant the BA bragging ....
I realized that. My comment still stands. Potty humor? Come on. As to BA's creds - it did not strike me as bragging. It was topical & in my view true.

You really are rather wound up today.

John Hyre

PS: Grandiose? Moi? Nope. Not me. The Emperor, maybe. That little Kermit-cousin Yoda, for certain. But not I.

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Re: Starving Cuba

Post by HybridAmbassador » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:56 pm

JHyre wrote:Gringalais,

Not looking to pick a fight with you at all with this response. My perception: The way you posed the correction struck me as quite harsh. This is in contrast to my perception of H.A.'s comment to me, which in keeping with his general demeanor, struck me as tongue in cheek. Could be I'm all wet, "perception" and "email" are often a formula for "Man, did I completely misunderstand". Re-read it, maybe you'll agree, maybe not. Just my two cents.
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PS: Good to know your Spanish creds. I grew up speaking it, but never had any formal training. I may periodically borrow some of that expertise if you'll permit me. I struggle some with formal Spanish, such as the legalese.
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