Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by admin » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:14 pm

think about the logic of this for a moment.

goal is to control the spread of the virus.

virus does not care about your residence or citizenship.

say, two people leave south dakota, USA (positivity rates above 50%). one is a none resident of chile, one is a full resident or citizen.

both enter chile with negative PCR tests.

one must complete a 14 day quartine. The other is free to go.

does the virus somehow care? are they somehow less contagious?

why is one treated differently than the other?

I bring this up, because chile has a constutional amendment, not to mention treaty obligations, specifically gurenteeing foriegners equal protection under the law.

I can guarantee you the virus will treat them equally, all other things being equal.
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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by frozen-north » Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:13 pm

scandinavian wrote:
Saw this list in EMOL, but have not been able to find it on an official page nor on WHO:
https://www.emol.com/noticias/Internaci ... o-OMS.html
The link to the WHO page was in one of the pages already mentioned by susiedillon:
susiedillon wrote:
This is the best(???) information I have found so far.

https://chile.gob.cl/chile/recomendacio ... -noviembre (in Spanish)
The WHO page mentioned there is: https://covid19.who.int/table

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Post by admin » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:13 am

so here is another fine bit of info. the government says you need a minimum $30,000 in insurance.
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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by scandinavian » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:23 am

frozen-north wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:13 pm
scandinavian wrote:
Saw this list in EMOL, but have not been able to find it on an official page nor on WHO:
https://www.emol.com/noticias/Internaci ... o-OMS.html
The link to the WHO page was in one of the pages already mentioned by susiedillon:
susiedillon wrote:
This is the best(???) information I have found so far.

https://chile.gob.cl/chile/recomendacio ... -noviembre (in Spanish)
The WHO page mentioned there is: https://covid19.who.int/table
Thanks Frozen-North! However, that is still really strange. I guess that is the countries reporting their status? I mean, can Italy seriously say they have "clusters of cases"? Norway average about 500 / day and has approx a tenth of the population. Italy average about 30K, so ballpark calculation - there are 6 times more cases. Percentage of the population that has been tested is almost the same in the two. So who decides that Norway has community spread, but Italy has clusters of cases?

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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by frozen-north » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:51 am

scandinavian wrote:
Thanks Frozen-North! However, that is still really strange. I guess that is the countries reporting their status? I mean, can Italy seriously say they have "clusters of cases"? Norway average about 500 / day and has approx a tenth of the population. Italy average about 30K, so ballpark calculation - there are 6 times more cases. Percentage of the population that has been tested is almost the same in the two. So who decides that Norway has community spread, but Italy has clusters of cases?
The self-reporting has been a problem since the very beginning. The numbers that all the media has been repeating in the news, including those used by the John Hopkins Resource Center, have been self-reporting by countries.

Here is an article from April with comments on the issue of self-reporting:
Coronavirus pandemic: Why 'community transmission' tag in WHO report doesn't hold water
Apr 15, 2020

While self-reporting their transmission status to WHO, 81 of the 215 countries classified themselves in the ‘cluster of cases’ category. These countries include China, which has reported over 83,000 cases, as well as India, where confirmed cases recently breached the 10,000-mark

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 50241.html

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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by Ripsigg » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:13 pm

admin wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:43 am
you want a digital copy, a paper copy, a copy on a stone tablet, two copies in marble, ..... :lol:

Don't give the beucrats anywhere to hide.
Ha! And fake PCR test results are available at/near many airports as well online. It's almost just easier to use a fake one than go through the hassle of getting a real one. I got tested a month ago and it took me 4 days to get the negative results. As it stands right now, I can't get a test anywhere within 2 hours of driving from where I am because there are zero slots available for testing. It's just that bad right now.

We are never going to beat this thing at the rate we are going and the loopholes out there.

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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by admin » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:15 pm

sorry had to delete that post.

1. the html was a mess.

2. i checked those sites and they had the info super ass backwards, and this is confusing already. don't need more fuel on the fire.
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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by susiedillon » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:27 pm

Perhaps we need another thread that covers the entry requirements for returning foreign residents of Chile? Those two sites I linked to seemed to be the best of the bunch out there for those of us in that category.

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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by GAminer » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:27 pm

For residents you just return and tell them where you are staying for your 14 day self quarantine.

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Post by admin » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:49 am

GAminer wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:27 pm
For residents you just return and tell them where you are staying for your 14 day self quarantine.
returing residents and citizens only:

1. a negative pcr, no older than 72 hours

or

2. 14 day quartine

or

3. take a pcr test on arrival, quartine until you recieve the results back.
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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by susiedillon » Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:32 am

Item #4
And additionally, you will need The Travellers Sworn Statement ( found at www dot cl19 dot cl ) filled out and submitted electronically 48 hours or more before scheduled arrival at SCL.

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Re: Chilean border's to open to tourist, none-residents

Post by Jamers41 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:27 am

susiedillon wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:32 am
Item #4
And additionally, you will need The Travellers Sworn Statement ( found at www dot cl19 dot cl ) filled out and submitted electronically 48 hours or more before scheduled arrival at SCL.
I did mine upon check in at the airport in Chicago when I returned last month. It was definitely less than 48 hours before arrival at SCL.

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