coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:15 am

The oxford aztrazenca vaccine was aproved for use in the UK.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/12/30/uk/u ... index.html

That is the game changer.

As wize-bang cool as the moderna and pfizer vaccines might have been from a technology perspective, they were never going to be able to produce them in numbers needed to end this pandemic.

It also just creeps me out the lack of peer reviewed papers published by those mRNA vaccines makers.

It is like the difference between iphone vs. andriod ecosystem, and I think that anology works on multiple levels.
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Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:19 am

If chile's regulators are johnny on the spot, Chile may be the first outside the U.K. to get their hands on the supply before all the other global regulators have a chance to aprove it.


If they wait, then Chile will be in line for supply like every other country.

Chile has a very small window to be one of the first countries to get this epidemic down, and get back to not only picking up the pieces but growing the economy while the rest of the world is still trying to figure out how to aquire and deploy the vaccine.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:41 am

I have often critisied Pinera as being a manager, not a leader. well, this is a moment when you need a manager. He needs to fire up the airforce jets, call latam, and go get the vaccine.

fetch Pinera fetch. Good boy. 🐕
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Billhere » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:51 am

Yes, the Oxford vaccine has approved in the UK, 100m doses bought by the Government, enough for the full course for 50m from a population of 67m. This is in addition to the Phizer vaccine which as we know is more difficult to handle.

Despite all the trumpeting we have surgeries in this area that will not starting injecting until the second week in January due to 'logistical difficulties', which doesn't give me a lot of confidence.

I read somewhere here that somebody was querying the overwhelming of British hospitals. Well, the figures for new cases were 41,385 reported on Monday, and 53,125 yesterday, and expected to continue to rise because of the stupid behaviour of some of the people here. Another 1300 admitted to hospitals which are now operating at above the levels of March this year, running out of beds, staff, and some are being treated initially in ambulances outside the buildings. This is mostly in Essex, a highly populated area to the East of London. We are fortunate where we live 80km West of London to have one of the lowest rates in the country but still no reason to lower your guard.

The 26th December is the traditional sales days in the big stores and saw the major malls rammed solid with people without masks, not socially distancing, or using the sanitizers available at the doors. Unfortunately you can't educate stupidity.

The closing of the Channel ports seemed to be more of a political ploy by the French soured by the (then) ongoing BREXIT talks where they were losing ground even to their own EU colleagues. As it was there were 'only' 26 positives out of 4,500 tests. The lorries were cleared within forty eight hours thanks to the flexible approach of the ferry companies and Eurotunnel.

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Post by tiagoabner » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:29 am

admin wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:19 am
If chile's regulators are johnny on the spot, Chile may be the first outside the U.K. to get their hands on the supply before all the other global regulators have a chance to aprove it.


If they wait, then Chile will be on line for suplly like every other country.

Chile has a very small window to be one of the first countries to get this epidemic down, and get back to not only picking up the pieces but growing the economy while the rest of the world is still trying to figure out how to aquire and deploy the vaccine.
Yep. The Chilean health system allows for them to piggyback on emergency approval from other countries, as long as they have the same or higher criteria as Chile. Both the UK and the US meet this, which is why they've used the UK's Pfizer vaccine approval studies.

Hopefully, the government has it's shit together and try to get emergency use approved today.
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Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:41 am

the oxford vaccines also had phase 3 trial ongoing in chile, so no lack of data available to the local regulators.

Now it is a matter of the beucrats not dragging their feet with the final paperwork.
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Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:43 pm

dr. going over the oxford vaccine info:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pj4_aK-j8I
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Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:54 pm

The u.k. has directed that the first shot of the oxford vaccine be given to as many people as possible as soon as possible, without consideration for reserving vaccine for the second shot.

few reasons for this,

the second shot can be give between 4 to 12 weeks later, and supplies are anticipated to be sufficient.

data shows that it is almost 100%, or close, to preventing sevier illness after just the first shot, and near 100% effective in preventing hospitalization. thus, better to get a partial vaccine regime out now.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by frozen-north » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:33 pm

admin wrote:
data shows that it is almost 100%, or close, to preventing sevier illness after just the first shot, and near 100% effective in preventing hospitalization. thus, better to get a partial vaccine regime out now.
The approval made more limited predictions.
The Oxford vaccine was approved on 30 December following trials that it stops 70% of people developing Covid symptoms.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51665497

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Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm

frozen-north wrote:
Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:33 pm
admin wrote:
data shows that it is almost 100%, or close, to preventing sevier illness after just the first shot, and near 100% effective in preventing hospitalization. thus, better to get a partial vaccine regime out now.
The approval made more limited predictions.
The Oxford vaccine was approved on 30 December following trials that it stops 70% of people developing Covid symptoms.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51665497
yea, they used the earlier data. the reviewed journal articles are showing higher numbers.

no one however is going to really know for a few years. That applies to all the vacines.
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Post by admin » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:24 pm

so yesterday biobio reported on the above reuters exclusive that the oxford vaccine was submitted to chilean regulators.

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... -isp.shtml

today the government is denying they were submitted, and say the contract is for april on.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... dosis.html
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:17 pm

so argentina has authorized the Oxford vaccine:

https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argenti ... cine.phtml
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