coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by ghibli » Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:46 pm

Thanks all. To eeuunikkeiexpat - I remember the horror stories which your family suffered.... I thought we were past that. Oh well.

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Post by 41southchile » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:24 pm

So now they are not going to cull Minks
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... tion-fears
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Post by admin » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:45 pm

41southchile wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:24 pm
So now they are not going to cull Minks
🤔
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... tion-fears
I find it amazing in this day and age there are so many mink farms in Europe, considering all their bla, bla, bla lecturing the world on human rights, cultural rights, animal rights, plant rights. suprised there is not a prohibition on killing covid because it violates the virus' rights. all those minks pelts almost exclusively are sold to China too.
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Post by admin » Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:53 pm

we actually have a wild mink population in Frutillar. I seen one once. There use to be a mink farm here years ago. some escaped, and established a wild population.

Don't think they are much of a threat, as I have seen one, and that was like 9 or 10 years ago. I have never as muchb as seen a sign of them, and I keep fairly good tabs on what the local wildlife population is up to.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Donnybrook2 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:07 pm

There used to be a thriving mink business in Chile. That would be 1950s and 60s. Mink stoles were very popular here. I suppose demand for real fur declined. That's where those wild minks come from-

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by 41southchile » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:24 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:45 pm
41southchile wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 6:24 pm
So now they are not going to cull Minks
🤔
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... tion-fears
I find it amazing in this day and age there are so many mink farms in Europe, considering all their bla, bla, bla lecturing the world on human rights, cultural rights, animal rights, plant rights. suprised there is not a prohibition on killing covid because it violates the virus' rights. all those minks pelts almost exclusively are sold to China too.
I was thinking the exact same thing, it is all blah blah blah, Money talks and bullshit walks I guess.
Also from that article I am surprised how many countries have Mink farms with covid outbreaks in them.
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Post by 41southchile » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:31 pm

Donnybrook2 wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:07 pm
There used to be a thriving mink business in Chile. That would be 1950s and 60s. Mink stoles were very popular here. I suppose demand for real fur declined. That's where those wild minks come from-
I was trying to find out what the difference between a mink and ferret is , I'm still not sure, apparently
The main difference between Ferret and Mink is that the Ferret is a subspecies of mammal and Mink is a mammal. ..
That's interesting about Chiles Mink industry.
I know there a few ferrets or weasels around here, I've occasionally seen them on the road at night and we and neighbors have had chickens killed.
Someone told me there was a farm down by Coyhaique a few decades ago and when they went bust they just opened the gates and let them all go. 🤦‍♂️
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Post by admin » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:48 pm

so doctor is going over the PFIZER vaccine announcement.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4RSAfRMrd8w

he does make a mistake however with the storage temp. the pfizer vaccine must be stored at -94 ferenhight (like -70 to -80 celsius), not -18 c as he states.

which is almost irrelevant from a logistics standpoint.

This essentially means that their "90% effective" vaccine, is worthless to 90% of the planet's population. Even in a fully developed country with good logistics and infrastructure, deploying 2 doeses, 28 days apart, to each person is crazy expensive and error prone. You cant do this with your home freezer.
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Post by nwdiver » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:41 pm

The vaccine has to be held at -70C and yes 2 doses are required. It is funny how quickly the Trumps jumped all over this announcement and show no shame when it was pointed out the development was in no way aided by project lightspeed or what ever the waste of money (pork barrel to USAs big pharma) the US vaccine program was called.

Most companies are not exploring this type of vaccine because of the logistics of distribution.

Canada prepurchased 20M units months ago and is developing infrastructure for distribution of the vaccine. Canada also prepurchased several more conventional vaccines.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by 41southchile » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:23 am

Sorry but Im still skeptical, 5 questions from NY times
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/opin ... covid.html
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Post by admin » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:33 am

41southchile wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:23 am
Sorry but Im still skeptical, 5 questions from NY times
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/opin ... covid.html
Yea, I think my biggest issue with the vaccine story going around is that was done as a PR stock stunt.

I follow a lot of stocks and their regular press releases. Had that been any other stock or industry, say a mining stock I owned. If they had announced they were starting to do exploratory drilling on one of their properties, I would have just dismissed it (if the notice did not go directly to spam). companies put out hundreds of thousands of those per day.

The big red flag, that makes it standout, is the none comittial nature of the information they published to avoid running afowl of stock regulators or sued by shareholders. Pharma stocks and mining stocks have a lot in common when it comes to hyping dry holes to push their stock price around. In fact I don't onvest in pharmaceutical companies because of it. Too easy to play hide and go seek with data.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by RuneTheChookcha » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:14 pm

Caravan "No More Quarantine" ~ Los Lagos

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... agos.shtml

"...It is specifically the sectors of commerce, gastronomy and tourism that are the most affected and those who organized this protest action, where according to the information provided by the organizers, more than a thousand vehicles participated..."

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