coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:04 pm

I bet if they looked at the top ten comorbidty listo for covid, most people with them also have low vitamin D levels. Obesity, for example. The bigger the person is the harder is to generate vitamin D or at least need more of it.

Or, something as simple as a sick person is not going to be as active in the sun as much.

Would be interested to see a study focusing on those related to vitamin D.
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Post by RuneTheChookcha » Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:27 pm

“The communes in step 1 that are in quarantine will maintain all the restrictions that are in force today, so they will NOT be able to access the special travel permits on September 18, 19 and 20.”.

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Post by BookReader » Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:07 am

Someone posted elsewhere the vitamin D from sun levels are insufficient w/o eleven minutes or so of bare-from-the-waist-up midday exposure...

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Post by admin » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:10 am

BookReader wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:07 am
Someone posted elsewhere the vitamin D from sun levels are insufficient w/o eleven minutes or so of bare-from-the-waist-up midday exposure...
I seen it recommend is you need exposure to about half the point where you would normally burn. Obviously, not very scientific. Too many variables.

The biggest issue is the human spiecies simply spend too much time indoors with modern society.
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Post by admin » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:14 am

So, the mess in mexico. After running out of death certificates, mexico is pushing over a 128,000 excess deaths. The government is only recognizing around half as potential covid deaths.

But the reasons are disturbing. Basically the government hospital are not treating people, and only 1 in 10 of people that die of respitory failure were placed on a ventilator. People are 3x more likely to die at a public hospital vs. The private hospital.

Meanwhile the president seems to be blaming everyone but himself for the handling.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielp ... exico/amp/
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Post by Britkid » Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:47 am

For those of you currently in Chile, or indeed anywhere south of the tropics, keep in mind that your current vitamin D levels are probably at a low point for the year right now, being the end of the winter you've had limited sun exposure, and perhaps having stayed indoors more than normal this winter due to COVID, you have been exposed to less sun than normal.

I am taking a vitamin D supplement for this year only until we get to sunny October.

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Post by frozen-north » Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:21 pm

BookReader wrote:
Someone posted elsewhere the vitamin D from sun levels are insufficient w/o eleven minutes or so of bare-from-the-waist-up midday exposure...

'Dermal synthesis of vitamin D is most efficient with short, regular (daily) exposures when the sun is at its strongest... the desirable dose is skin-type dependent and so exposure times required differ for different skin types. For the UK about 10 min of exposure at around lunchtime, in-season appropriate clothing, can meet vitamin D needs for white-skinned people; this increases to about 25 min for those of skin type V (ie, South Asian, brown skin tones).'

https://nutrition.bmj.com/content/early ... 020-000089

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Post by admin » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:16 pm

Well, the fundamental problem with global vitamin D levels, is that we don't spend dawn to dusk out working in the fields or chasing mammoths anymore.

Instead we sit in our air conditioned / heated city caves, at a computer on a sunny day.

It is a relatively new evolutionary problem. Probably less than 100 years old. Throw in the movement of races (e.g. Africans to northern Europe) from one part of the World to another, and a whole bunch of modern diet issues, etc; well, you get the picture.

Generally humans behaving badly.
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Post by hlf2888 » Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:39 pm

Free vitamin D from the 9 months of sunshine is one of the reasons I chose the seventh region. Sunshine makes me smile, rain makes me depressed.

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Post by admin » Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:42 pm

Chile hit a 4.51% positivity rate today for the first time since April.

The extreme south is still a major problem. Punta arenas, etc.

Health minister is blaming it on the high flow of truck traffic between chile and Argentina, and they are implementing mandatory PCR tests for the drivers.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... es-18.html
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Post by RuneTheChookcha » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:45 pm

The transverse myelitis case (as it was reported yesterday) which paused the AstraZeneca trials:

"Qué significa la suspensión de la prueba de AstraZeneca":
https://www.latercera.com/podcast/notic ... 66JUKVUTU/

Yet, it was not the first case: "according to a participant information sheet dated July 12 that was posted on the ISRCTN clinical-trial registry, one volunteer in AstraZeneca’s U.K. trial had developed symptoms of transverse myelitis..."

Source: Bloomberg { https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... chief-says }

"...An August update of the information sheet removed the reference to transverse myelitis and said the participant developed neurological symptoms that caused the study to be paused..."

To continue:

"..."It is an illness that has been associated with vaccinations before, although it is rare. A 2018 study published in Neurology, which analysed more than 30 years of data on US vaccines, found 119 cases of the condition in 29 men and 90 women, with half being recorded after vaccinations for hepatitis B..."

Source: http://www.pharmafile.com/news/558843/a ... sible-year
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Post by admin » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:12 pm

RuneTheChookcha wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:45 pm
The transverse myelitis case (as it was reported yesterday) which paused the AstraZeneca trials:

"Qué significa la suspensión de la prueba de AstraZeneca":
https://www.latercera.com/podcast/notic ... 66JUKVUTU/

Yet, it was not the first case: "according to a participant information sheet dated July 12 that was posted on the ISRCTN clinical-trial registry, one volunteer in AstraZeneca’s U.K. trial had developed symptoms of transverse myelitis..."

Source: Bloomberg { https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... chief-says }

"...An August update of the information sheet removed the reference to transverse myelitis and said the participant developed neurological symptoms that caused the study to be paused..."

To continue:

"..."It is an illness that has been associated with vaccinations before, although it is rare. A 2018 study published in Neurology, which analysed more than 30 years of data on US vaccines, found 119 cases of the condition in 29 men and 90 women, with half being recorded after vaccinations for hepatitis B..."

Source: http://www.pharmafile.com/news/558843/a ... sible-year
Yea, stopping a drug trial to figure out what is wrong with a test subject, is what they are suppose to do.

What worries me are all the drugs in development that they will not stop the trial.

After all those drug companies signed that pledge in the united states, it seems the drug companies are worried chump and friends are going to spook away their market. Nothing like throwing a few billion dollars in to developing a vaccine, that no one wants to take because they smell like they were cutting corners on the development and safety due to political pressure.
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