coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:39 am

Argentina seems to be running over 12,000 confirmed new cases a day, and around 250 deaths a day. They are approaching 500,000 cases, 10,000 deaths. Probably multiply by 20 on that, because even if those numbers could be trusted, they obviously are not even testing sufficiently to even be close.

But, no worries. magical realism is alive and well in Argentina.

While the government says there is around 60% of ICU beds are available, head of intensive care association is saying it is more like 90%.

https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argenti ... stem.phtml

Even more rediculas, seems one of the governors of a province is threating to fine and jail medical workers that do not show up for work. yeah, that will fix the problem. Why not send them to a sabieran gulag while you are at it? No problems with hospital capacity? Plenty of beds?
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by ghibli » Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:02 pm

I don't know the answer, but I do know that we won't find out if we don't keep asking. Here's one MD's opinion. https://on.rt.com/apsw

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by ghibli » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:00 pm

Not news gregf. And Bezos owns the washington post. and google is an absolute fount of fact right?

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by tiagoabner » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:25 pm

Reading from multiple sources is the best way to get news, you just need to know who they're getting money from to know what their bias is. Pretty much all news sources will have someone paying their bills for propaganda proposes, newspapers haven't been profitable for decades now.
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Post by RuneTheChookcha » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:48 pm

tiagoabner wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:25 pm
Reading from multiple sources is the best way to get news, you just need to know who they're getting money from to know what their bias is. Pretty much all news sources will have someone paying their bills for propaganda proposes, newspapers haven't been profitable for decades now.
Exactly. Knowing that, you may want to prefer highly professional journalism, filtering out the obvious and the subtle propaganda. Both the RT and Jazeera are extremely well paid, and are being able to create quality content.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:20 pm

O.k., the good doctor today is going over a double blind study of covid patients admitted to the hospital and given vitamin D. the outcome is stunning.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Ks9fUh2k8


If that was the results of a vaccine or other hyper expensive treatment, the global media would be falling all over themselves declaring a miracle; but, no money in that.
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Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:56 pm

Exactly!

Also high dose Vitamin C.
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Post by nwdiver » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:06 pm

And use of cheap steroids when on a ventilator and you have a treatment that is reducing mortalities......
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Post by admin » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:12 pm

Well the other thing to keep in mind, is those are just the people that were sick enophe to go to the hospital with low vitamin D. All the other studies are showing reduced rates of people contracting covid at all if they have adequate vitamin D levels to start.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:14 pm

The good doctor made mention of another vitamin D study, but did not go in to much detail. So I thought I would have a look at it.

Cliff notes version:
https://www.upi.com/amp/Health_News/202 ... 599139929/

The full study:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamane ... erm=090320

This is the one where they followed people that had their vitamin D tested within a year before the start of the pandemic to see who contracted covid.

What was interesting , after controlling for other factors, they calculated a 77% increased chance of contracting covid with a vitumen D definiciency vs. only a 6% increased chance due to increased age.

Those are some big contrasting numbers, no matter what you are studying.

After all the years falling asleep in logic courses at the university, I still find the logic I was taught watching sesame street at 4 years old the most useful. It goes like this, "one of these things is not like the other, one of these things is not the same".

Often life is that simple.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:28 pm

The Vitamin D3 story holds true for all flu viruses and it is a better preventive than the annual flu virus vaccine can ever hope to be.

So what have the authorities been recommending, total lockdown with the resulting loss of exposure to the sun. Quarantine is making people more susceptible to the virus!! Which is fine if you are trying to market a future va$$ince solution that may not even be a real solution let's not mention vaccine interference in making another flu virus more virulent as a US Military study pointed at (the annual flu vaccine seems to have made many more likely to have serious effects if a person does come down with COVID 1984).
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