coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu May 28, 2020 11:37 am

so, the u.s. has passed the official 100,000 deaths from covid, but we know that is not even remotely accurate.

which, obviously puts in to question the world stats that have passed 350,000 deaths. If around 1/3, of the confirmed and reported are in the U.S., and something like 47% of those were just in new york, what do you think is going on everywhere else?

From india and pakistan ordering doctors not to test for covid, to mexico with its 3x the reported deaths, to Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina, etc playing games with stats for local politicians egos, there is a lot of under reported covid deaths in the world.
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Post by admin » Thu May 28, 2020 11:49 am

so, this is interesting. a report of a ship that left Argentina for Antarctica expedition, and had an outbreak. after all the outbreaks on a ships that failed to be documented, this seems to be the first to provide any sort of comprehensive report of the cases.

It seems that 81% of the people on board that contracted the virus, had no symptoms.

https://thorax.bmj.com/content/early/20 ... 020-215091
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu May 28, 2020 12:02 pm

Government report:

4,654 new cases, 86,943 total confirmed cases

49 new deaths, 890 total deaths

36,150 considered recovered

346 ventilators available, 400 arriving this weekend

15,650 completed yesterday, 530,173 total tests conducted

1,079 patients on respirators

93% of critical care beds in RM occupied, 86% in the country

3,707 health care workers have tested positive so far.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu May 28, 2020 12:27 pm

Britkid wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:01 pm
Earlier this month, I found an official government website where you could review all the cases by comuna everywhere in the country. Now I can only find major regions, major cities or Santiago data.

I want all the breakdown for every comuna everywhere in the country (not Santiago), can anyone remember the site for that?

Thanks.
each region has its own regional minister of health site where they post the daily stats for the counties.

this is the one for los lagos, and you can change the number in the url where it says 10, to whatever your region is.

https://seremi10.redsalud.gob.cl/

regional numbers are typically updated a couple hours after the national numbers are announced.
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Post by admin » Thu May 28, 2020 12:30 pm

for example, this is yesterday's numbers for los lagos:
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 pm

so, this article is just in time to help me flesh out my pet theory of the difference in death rates between countries.

How old people are cared for in a culture, determines to a great extent the death rate in that country from covid.

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... ital.shtml

In Chile there are 801 cases among 4,000 people in nursing homes.

vs. the United States that has something north of 2.5 million people living in retirement / nursing homes.

what got me thinking about it was just about everyone I know in Chile that is taking care of an elderly or sick relative, does it at home. both as a matter of money I am sure, but also as a culture, kids take care of the elderly. I have one friend I think that after a long struggle with the decision finally put his mother with alzheimers in a facility, and only after she became a danger to herself.

so that got me thinking about Asia. In asia, kids take care of parents for the most part. That is sort of the social security contract between generations.

obviously, it also depends on how they are taken care of in the nursing homes, etc; but, I suspect prevalence of nursing homes in a country, will track pretty closely to number of deaths.
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Post by admin » Thu May 28, 2020 7:15 pm

assuming we can buy the u.s numbers even a little bit, 42% of deaths were among 0.6% of the population.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothec ... eaths/amp/

we have known early on in this pandemic, that the elderly were the biggest target of this virus.

If a country can keep a lid on their exposure, they can keep the death rate down.
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Post by nwdiver » Thu May 28, 2020 11:42 pm

admin wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 7:12 pm
so, this article is just in time to help me flesh out my pet theory of the difference in death rates between countries.

How old people are cared for in a culture, determines to a great extent the death rate in that country from covid.

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... ital.shtml

In Chile there are 801 cases among 4,000 people in nursing homes.

vs. the United States that has something north of 2.5 million people living in retirement / nursing homes.

what got me thinking about it was just about everyone I know in Chile that is taking care of an elderly or sick relative, does it at home. both as a matter of money I am sure, but also as a culture, kids take care of the elderly. I have one friend I think that after a long struggle with the decision finally put his mother with alzheimers in a facility, and only after she became a danger to herself.

so that got me thinking about Asia. In asia, kids take care of parents for the most part. That is sort of the social security contract between generations.

obviously, it also depends on how they are taken care of in the nursing homes, etc; but, I suspect prevalence of nursing homes in a country, will track pretty closely to number of deaths.
In BC Canada, all outbreaks are in nursing homes and several in meat processing facilities..... the heath break is a second outbreak in a nursing home.

Ontario called out the army to help in nursing home, their first report is scathing toward how the service in many facilities went to shit, when it hit the fan....
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Post by admin » Fri May 29, 2020 11:50 am

well, in local los lagos news, starting this friday there will be a mandatory 14 day quarantine for people entering the los lagos (region 10) from Santiago or any other community under quarantine.

still looking for more details on this.
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Post by admin » Fri May 29, 2020 11:59 am

Government report:

3,695 new cases, 90,638 total confirmed cases

54 new deaths, 944 total deaths

38,598 considered recovered

345 ventilators available

16,333 test completed yesterday, 546,506 total tests conducted
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by El Presidente » Fri May 29, 2020 11:52 pm

admin wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 12:27 pm
Britkid wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:01 pm
Earlier this month, I found an official government website where you could review all the cases by comuna everywhere in the country. Now I can only find major regions, major cities or Santiago data.

I want all the breakdown for every comuna everywhere in the country (not Santiago), can anyone remember the site for that?

Thanks.
each region has its own regional minister of health site where they post the daily stats for the counties.

this is the one for los lagos, and you can change the number in the url where it says 10, to whatever your region is.

https://seremi10.redsalud.gob.cl/

regional numbers are typically updated a couple hours after the national numbers are announced.
This site provides an easy to use dashboard of the numbers by comuna. It presents the "active cases":
https://covid19entucomuna.cl/
¿Cómo se contabilizan los casos activos?

El Reporte Diario proyecta la recuperación en 14 días desde la fecha de notificación del examen PCR, es decir, contabiliza como activos los casos confirmados en los últimos 14 días.

El Informe Epidemiológico define los casos activos como: "personas vivas confirmadas con COVID-19 cuya fecha de inicio de síntomas en la notificación es menor o igual a 14 días a la fecha del reporte actual".
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