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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:19 pm

appears Argentina had a problem. they received a shipment of covidshield (astrazenica from india), used it all to provide the first shot, now India is not exporting anymore and astrazenica directly says they can not provide shots because of their other production problems leaving like half a milion people without their second shot.

https://www.eldia.com/
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by tiagoabner » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:04 am

admin wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:32 pm
so paris announced the government is considering issuing a "green" pass and "green" passport for those that have completed their vaccination +14 days. he did not give much more detail about it.
More on this: https://www.t13.cl/noticia/politica/car ... n-29-04-21

The government certainly has been working quietly behind the scenes on this. I have noticed about six weeks ago that you can check all data about your vaccine doses at www.mevacuno.cl .

That website also has the green carnet already, which is a certificate that notes when you were vaccinated and that has a QR code to allow for the certificate's authenticity to be checked (presumably by Carabineros). It also displays data in a printer-friendly way if you access it from a PC, and it has a mobile version when accessing from a phone. It's really well done, to the point where I actually suspected it wasn't done in Chile.

When I first saw that, I did some research and found out that the standard being used to display the data is exactly the same that has been proposed by the EU for their green passports. The Chilean version is so similar that I suspect the Chilean government has been coordinating at some level with the EU regarding a standard for this. Either this or that blatantly copied the EU green passport standard.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by tiagoabner » Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:06 am

admin wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:19 pm
appears Argentina had a problem. they received a shipment of covidshield (astrazenica from india), used it all to provide the first shot, now India is not exporting anymore and astrazenica directly says they can not provide shots because of their other production problems leaving like half a milion people without their second shot.

https://www.eldia.com/
Paris in Chile has been criticized a lot for not opening up vaccination for everybody, and saving vaccines for the second doses. However, the logistics chain issues that have been popping up as of late makes it look like their decision wasn't wrong, especially considering that you need a second dose to get a decent level of protection.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:19 am

so india is officially approaching 400,000 cases,

https://apnews.com/article/asia-pacific ... edeb2d4b46


Modi is sure looking like the asian Trump /Bolsinaro, as he prioritizes elections over the covid crisis.

One Indian government official even told people to quit crying like Bolsinaro.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:23 am

tiagoabner wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:06 am
admin wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 4:19 pm
appears Argentina had a problem. they received a shipment of covidshield (astrazenica from india), used it all to provide the first shot, now India is not exporting anymore and astrazenica directly says they can not provide shots because of their other production problems leaving like half a milion people without their second shot.

https://www.eldia.com/
Paris in Chile has been criticized a lot for not opening up vaccination for everybody, and saving vaccines for the second doses. However, the logistics chain issues that have been popping up as of late makes it look like their decision wasn't wrong, especially considering that you need a second dose to get a decent level of protection.
Yea, for all the flack they have gotten, we would have around 1 million people fully vaccinated and actually protected, had they tried to give a shot to everyone early on and hope for the best for arrival of supplies to give the second shot.

I just read about a women in Brazil, got her first sinovac shot, and died two weeks later before getting the second one. we have lots of those stories, and plenty of data now that the sinovac is pretty useless with one shot.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by scandinavian » Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:52 am

tiagoabner wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:04 am
admin wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:32 pm
so paris announced the government is considering issuing a "green" pass and "green" passport for those that have completed their vaccination +14 days. he did not give much more detail about it.
More on this: https://www.t13.cl/noticia/politica/car ... n-29-04-21

The government certainly has been working quietly behind the scenes on this. I have noticed about six weeks ago that you can check all data about your vaccine doses at www.mevacuno.cl .

That website also has the green carnet already, which is a certificate that notes when you were vaccinated and that has a QR code to allow for the certificate's authenticity to be checked (presumably by Carabineros). It also displays data in a printer-friendly way if you access it from a PC, and it has a mobile version when accessing from a phone. It's really well done, to the point where I actually suspected it wasn't done in Chile.

When I first saw that, I did some research and found out that the standard being used to display the data is exactly the same that has been proposed by the EU for their green passports. The Chilean version is so similar that I suspect the Chilean government has been coordinating at some level with the EU regarding a standard for this. Either this or that blatantly copied the EU green passport standard.
Thanks for that - Quite impressive. Less so, that they haven't mentioned it yet, but I guess they are still working on how to apply it. it works though. My hopes for travelling to Europe this winter without too many restrictions just went up a bit.

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Post by Britkid » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:24 am

So if you look here:
https://www.emol.com/especiales/2020/in ... -chile.asp
And scroll down to the 3rd graph "personas vacunas por dia".
You can see that up to and including April 1st they were giving out first dose at a rate of 125,000-170,000 per day for the whole of March.
So, naturally, for the whole of April, they have had to give out second dose at the same rate.
Which perhaps limited the available first dose.
From 5th April onwards the amount of 1st dose reduced to under 100,000 per day and much of that reduction came quite suddenly after April 1st.
Starting from Monday, May 3rd second doses required will be less per day.
IF the total vaccines given out remains roughly constant, then available first doses could increase in May, provided that they have confidence in the available supply for June.

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Post by admin » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:37 pm

the green card might be modeled after the one in isreal,

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEH ... id=US%3Aen

the WHO and EU, are not exactly got their shit together sufficiently to lead this, but more likely will come around to it.

In latina America, I don't see anyone else getting close to substantial vaccination to make this practical before at least September or October, and that is probably optimistic given the rates of vaccination so far. perhaps Uruguay might get there, but the others.....
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:45 pm

scandinavian wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:52 am
tiagoabner wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:04 am
admin wrote:
Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:32 pm
so paris announced the government is considering issuing a "green" pass and "green" passport for those that have completed their vaccination +14 days. he did not give much more detail about it.
More on this: https://www.t13.cl/noticia/politica/car ... n-29-04-21

The government certainly has been working quietly behind the scenes on this. I have noticed about six weeks ago that you can check all data about your vaccine doses at www.mevacuno.cl .

That website also has the green carnet already, which is a certificate that notes when you were vaccinated and that has a QR code to allow for the certificate's authenticity to be checked (presumably by Carabineros). It also displays data in a printer-friendly way if you access it from a PC, and it has a mobile version when accessing from a phone. It's really well done, to the point where I actually suspected it wasn't done in Chile.

When I first saw that, I did some research and found out that the standard being used to display the data is exactly the same that has been proposed by the EU for their green passports. The Chilean version is so similar that I suspect the Chilean government has been coordinating at some level with the EU regarding a standard for this. Either this or that blatantly copied the EU green passport standard.
Thanks for that - Quite impressive. Less so, that they haven't mentioned it yet, but I guess they are still working on how to apply it. it works though. My hopes for travelling to Europe this winter without too many restrictions just went up a bit.
Yea, I am hoping to make it to go to the UK possibly around August / September (Shakespeare festival), assuming the situation permits. If things are looking really good, might do Greece and Germany (October fest 🤔).

Just not interested in flying half way around the world to sit in quartine for a week or whatever both directions.

probably just day dreaming. this shit show could be worse by then.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by tiagoabner » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:58 pm

From what I've read, it seems that countries (& the EU) will only accept vaccine passports for vaccines that have been approved for use in that country. So we who got vaccinated with Sinovac are kind of screwed in that regard, if things move forward like this. Hopefully, Sinovac will have been approved for use in the EU by then. I have some business that I need to take care in person in Portugal, so being able to travel there by the end of the year would be really convenient.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sat May 01, 2021 9:54 am

sinovac, here are my two positive antibody test in a row. bit hard to see the lines, but both the G and M have lines.
20210501_084946.jpg
interesting too is my wife took one, she had the pfizer shots, and her line showed immediately and in bright red. our other friend that had phizer said she did have a very faint line too.

our friend that had the sinovac the same time as me, said his showed up as a bright line too.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sat May 01, 2021 10:50 am

so looks like india passed 400,000 cases a day.

that is 4,000,000 if you go with the more conservative western 10x officially diagnosed; or, 12,000,000 new cases as one study in india claimed that cases were being missed at a rate of 30x.

U.S. is blocking travel from india. too little, too late again.

Modi and his right wing party are squarely taking the blaim.
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