coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Britkid » Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:22 pm

Our town in the past has been way quieter in phase 1 because many of the stores and businesses are closed. Easily way under half the people of phase 2 or pre COVID situation.

I think the quarantine was probably the right decision. It may have to be the last one, however.

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Post by admin » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:15 am

Britkid wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:22 pm
Our town in the past has been way quieter in phase 1 because many of the stores and businesses are closed. Easily way under half the people of phase 2 or pre COVID situation.

I think the quarantine was probably the right decision. It may have to be the last one, however.
went to town yesterday, we are in phase 2, and every single restaurant was open that could have a chair outside. people everywhere.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:16 am

so this mathematician seems to think the R value has dropped to 1 in Chile,

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... dirse.html
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Post by admin » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:25 am

my guesstimate right now is the government has between 2 to 4 weeks for a dramatic drop in cases to appear, or there is going to be some very serious questions about the handling of the vaccine program.

we are crossing the 60% fully vaccinated line, should be 70%+ by next week. add say 14 days to insure all the vaccines kick in.

so, add an allowance of say 2 to 3 weeks, for all the new cases, that incubate, people become sick, and then end-up in the hospital, plus say about 1 to 2 weeks for people in that group that then die. so in 2 weeks there should be a noticeable drop in new cases, about 3 to 4 weeks drop in new hospitalization, then 4 to 6, drop in deaths.

of course, all this could be happening right now, but just not appearing in the stats yet. In 2 weeks, it should clearly be visible in the stats.

and this is their last shot at a quartine. no one is going to put with that shit anymore. left and right in congress now are making noise about not renewing the constitutional exception.

the administration is running out of time on all fronts to show serious results.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:33 am

meanwhile, over the hump,

Argentina seems to be averaging a pretty steady 30,000 cases a day, and 700 deaths a day. They surpassed the united states for deaths per million, with over 84,000 deaths.

https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argenti ... 4000.phtml

they are trying to extend the lockdown, but the local city and regional governments are not playing around, and schools are opening.
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Post by 41southchile » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:33 am

admin wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:25 am
my guesstimate right now is the government has between 2 to 4 weeks for a dramatic drop in cases to appear, or there is going to be some very serious questions about the handling of the vaccine program.

we are crossing the 60% fully vaccinated line, should be 70%+ by next week. add say 14 days to insure all the vaccines kick in.

so, add an allowance of say 2 to 3 weeks, for all the new cases, that incubate, people become sick, and then end-up in the hospital, plus say about 1 to 2 weeks for people in that group that then die. so in 2 weeks there should be a noticeable drop in new cases, about 3 to 4 weeks drop in new hospitalization, then 4 to 6, drop in deaths.

of course, all this could be happening right now, but just not appearing in the stats yet. In 2 weeks, it should clearly be visible in the stats.

and this is their last shot at a quartine. no one is going to put with that shit anymore. left and right in congress now are making noise about not renewing the constitutional exception.

the administration is running out of time on all fronts to show serious results.
Exactly right.

If dickhead Piñata hadn’t have gone around singing victory back in March and April that Chile was leading the world and everything would be back to normal by the middle of the year because everyone would be vaccinated, maybe people wouldn’t be so upset about what is happening now.

It’s the middle of the year and numbers have never been worse, the health system collapsing and a large part of the population in lockdown, this is not how Piñata or his lackies in government sold it to the people, and actually to the worlds media too, earlier in the year.

Once again his big stupid mouth manages to screw it up for him, please toddle off and don’t ever show your face again in public after November/March please Piñera.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by 41southchile » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:43 am

admin wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:15 am
Britkid wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:22 pm
Our town in the past has been way quieter in phase 1 because many of the stores and businesses are closed. Easily way under half the people of phase 2 or pre COVID situation.

I think the quarantine was probably the right decision. It may have to be the last one, however.
went to town yesterday, we are in phase 2, and every single restaurant was open that could have a chair outside. people everywhere.
Exactly same in Puerto Varas too in Paso 2.
Llanquihue was full of people too, everywhere , and it’s in Quarantine , they must have all been vaccinated and have their paso . Hmmmm.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Huelshoff » Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:00 pm

admin wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:25 am
my guesstimate right now is the government has between 2 to 4 weeks for a dramatic drop in cases to appear, or there is going to be some very serious questions about the handling of the vaccine program.

we are crossing the 60% fully vaccinated line, should be 70%+ by next week. add say 14 days to insure all the vaccines kick in.

so, add an allowance of say 2 to 3 weeks, for all the new cases, that incubate, people become sick, and then end-up in the hospital, plus say about 1 to 2 weeks for people in that group that then die. so in 2 weeks there should be a noticeable drop in new cases, about 3 to 4 weeks drop in new hospitalization, then 4 to 6, drop in deaths.

of course, all this could be happening right now, but just not appearing in the stats yet. In 2 weeks, it should clearly be visible in the stats.

and this is their last shot at a quartine. no one is going to put with that shit anymore. left and right in congress now are making noise about not renewing the constitutional exception.

the administration is running out of time on all fronts to show serious results.
For what it’s worth, my wife’s boss, who is an immunologist at U de Chile and is working on a Covid vaccine, tells us that June and July will be bad.

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Post by admin » Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:53 pm

and the back peddling and excuses have already started in regards to "herd immunity" and how many people may need to be vaccinated, will there be a third shot required, etc.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... acion.html

now, in fairness, we all sort of knew this. we have been discussing it for over a year. Just the frigen administration has refused to admit it to the country in a form that your average Chilean might grasp. Still waiting.
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Post by 41southchile » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:30 pm

admin wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:53 pm
and the back peddling and excuses have already started in regards to "herd immunity" and how many people may need to be vaccinated, will there be a third shot required, etc.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... acion.html

now, in fairness, we all sort of knew this. we have been discussing it for over a year. Just the frigen administration has refused to admit it to the country in a form that your average Chilean might grasp. Still waiting.
I think that last line is key. They don’t understand and haven’t been given the leadership you might expect from a half clued up government .
I suppose none of this is surprising with the disconnect that exists between classes in Chile.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by PXYC » Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:23 pm

The rumour is that the government was forced to go into quarentine because hospitals started to have cases of VRS (not related with covid), which essenciatilly affects babies, and infant uci capacity is currently very low since uci beds have been mainly taken by covid patients.

"El virus respiratorio sincitial, también conocido como virus respiratorio sincicial, es una enfermedad viral común. Por lo general, causa síntomas leves parecidos al resfriado. Pero puede provocar infecciones pulmonares graves, especialmente en bebés, adultos mayores y personas con problemas médicos serios."

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:59 am

well, the numbers by age seem to be progressing towards the younger populations the way you would expect,

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... es-65.html
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