coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri May 14, 2021 5:52 pm

yea, they better make some serious changes to the paso a paso crap soon.

somehow frutillar is still in phase 1 (2 months), monday to phase 2, but over 60% of the town has had two vaccines, 69% with at least one.

The only reason we are in quartine at all, is because of their stupid maps make no sense.

There is one, highly dense government housing project, about 15 km from where I live. I go there for some reason maybe once every three years or so; but, obviously we are at risk from catching covid from the cows and should be kept in quartine anyway.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Jamers41 » Fri May 14, 2021 6:29 pm

gringalais wrote:
Fri May 14, 2021 11:53 am
Jamers - Here we are hitting 8 weeks. I guess it's about the same there. We can both work from home too, at least. If we were still where we were living in Santiago, we would be in phase 2. However, we'd be renting a cramped house and would have probably killed each other by now :lol: At least where we living, we have a good sized yard, our own larger house and peace and quiet. We're away from the ugly part along route 5. Here we have farms and nature behind the house. The dogs are happy to have a good-sized yard too.

The most annoying thing is that 2 hours isn't really enough to do anything. We can't even make it to Jumbo in that amount of time and they don't deliver here. We are restricted to what is in town and ordering from Telemercados. When it was 3 hours we could swing it, but 2 is close if there's a line to get in.

At least that is good news that you go an offer on the house. I hope your new house is ready soon and you can make the move smoothly!
Thank you. Yup your guess is correct, it's been about 2 months here also of phase 1. Hopefully just in a couple of months from now we will be saying "chao Santiasco" to head (about 65 minutes) south and have that extra space too......our house in Puente Alto is not terrible but sometimes with the current neighbors that space is needed.

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Post by admin » Fri May 14, 2021 10:26 pm

This is an interesting article on Brazil in scientific America,

"Brazil’s Pandemic Is a ‘Biological Fukushima’ That Threatens the Entire Planet"

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... re-planet/

This Brazilian doctor stops just short of calling for the U.N. security council to invade Brazil and take over the covid response (although he does imply it).
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Post by gringalais » Sat May 15, 2021 10:46 am

Admin - I agree, something has to change. Here I look at the "Visor Territorial" site from time to time to check out the active cases and our area always is at 0. Areas to the north and south of downtown, kilometers from here, are where the active cases are highest. I don't think I've ever set foot in most of those areas, but we are still locked down.

Last year there was a case where one of the security guards had close contact with someone that had tested positive and informed the administration. He and the other guards he had worked shifts with were put on leave to isolate and they brought in a temporary service for two weeks. That's the only case I have heard of related to the condominium throughout the whole pandemic.

Jamers - It was actually the arrival of the trashiest/shadiest neighbors you could imagine that led my husband to finally get off the fence about making the move. We nicknamed them Sawman and Wife of Sawman, although she may have been more a partner in crime than his wife. We came home a trip to the coast to realize that he had moved in and parked his car in our space. She had arrived a few months before. When we tried to go talk to him about the parking space he started to threaten us. At that point, we both said, "what the hell is going on, we're fighting over a parking space?" That set the plan to move in motion.

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Post by admin » Sat May 15, 2021 1:14 pm

so, U.K. scientist are saying the Indan varient is 50% more transmissiable than the U.K. varient, making it as much as 200% more transmissable than the original covid varient from china.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eO6oSJbBwbE

but, hey we will see, as the U.S. cdc gives the all clear to a population that is under 40% vaccinated.
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Post by admin » Sat May 15, 2021 1:29 pm

but, hey football must go on. Argentina and colombia will host copa america, starting on june 13th. that should end well. They are pushing over 150,000 deaths, at least, between the two of them, plus civil unrest, and little to no vaccination programs.

https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/sports/ ... -out.phtml
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Post by admin » Sat May 15, 2021 1:36 pm

Argentina clocked over 27,000 new cases, 600 deaths in the last 24 hours.

https://www.batimes.com.ar/news/argenti ... aths.phtml
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Post by gringalais » Sat May 15, 2021 4:23 pm

I guess with those virus levels in Argentina, it's not surprising that 10 members of River Plate soccer team tested positive!

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Post by admin » Sun May 16, 2021 12:36 pm

this article on the lack of cemetery space in Peru estimates the real number is over 170,000 deaths,

https://apnews.com/article/peru-coronav ... 8f8ca236a7

I even have doubts about that. much of Peru is really under developed, and corruption is endemic.
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Post by Britkid » Sun May 16, 2021 2:19 pm

There are still about 200 people dying every week over 80 which is about the same rate as before the vaccine program started. This number is possibly declining very slightly over time, but the decline is so slight it´s not clear if it is a real decline trend.

I still have lingering doubts about why this is happening even though about 80% of this age group had their second dose a long time ago.

Are they releasing the data on how many of these people were vaccinated, and on what date?

It looks like the sinovac is less effective than claimed
OR the vaccine was introduced at a time the virus was getting more transmissible and more dangerous
OR maybe there is some other explanation

I sometimes think there might be something we don´t yet know. It doesn´t seem to quite add up.

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Post by hlf2888 » Sun May 16, 2021 3:43 pm

Britkid wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 2:19 pm
There are still about 200 people dying every week over 80 which is about the same rate as before the vaccine program started. This number is possibly declining very slightly over time, but the decline is so slight it´s not clear if it is a real decline trend.

I still have lingering doubts about why this is happening even though about 80% of this age group had their second dose a long time ago.

Are they releasing the data on how many of these people were vaccinated, and on what date?

It looks like the sinovac is less effective than claimed
OR the vaccine was introduced at a time the virus was getting more transmissible and more dangerous
OR maybe there is some other explanation

I sometimes think there might be something we don´t yet know. It doesn´t seem to quite add up.
Nothing adds up anymore.

There was an articulate and compelling interview on CBC this morning with the director of a documentary on Wuhan. The Chinese government initiated a complete lockdown in February 2020, and managed to get it under control by April 2020 when the city Wuhan, and the country re-opened. I have friends on a FB page for expats in China. They all say China did a great job but was much stricter than other countries. Now everything is open, even nightclubs and discotheques. Here in the Western world, (I am in Canada now) there are too many people who think they are much more important, as individuals, than the society is. Here is the link for the podcast.

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1- ... M17DvlAGzc

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Post by admin » Sun May 16, 2021 3:49 pm

hlf2888 wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 3:43 pm
Britkid wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 2:19 pm
There are still about 200 people dying every week over 80 which is about the same rate as before the vaccine program started. This number is possibly declining very slightly over time, but the decline is so slight it´s not clear if it is a real decline trend.

I still have lingering doubts about why this is happening even though about 80% of this age group had their second dose a long time ago.

Are they releasing the data on how many of these people were vaccinated, and on what date?

It looks like the sinovac is less effective than claimed
OR the vaccine was introduced at a time the virus was getting more transmissible and more dangerous
OR maybe there is some other explanation

I sometimes think there might be something we don´t yet know. It doesn´t seem to quite add up.
Nothing adds up anymore.

There was an articulate and compelling interview on CBC this morning with the director of a documentary on Wuhan. The Chinese government initiated a complete lockdown in February 2020, and managed to get it under control by April 2020 when the city Wuhan, and the country re-opened. I have friends on a FB page for expats in China. They all say China did a great job but was much stricter than other countries. Now everything is open, even nightclubs and discotheques. Here in the Western world, (I am in Canada now) there are too many people who think they are much more important, as individuals, than the society is. Here is the link for the podcast.

https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1- ... M17DvlAGzc
wuhan is a small town by chinese standards. It would take something like 20,000 people extra dying a day for it to even show-up in the stats; assuming any of the stats could be trusted.

FYI, Beijing has full control of all social media, including FB used by expats.
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