coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sun May 17, 2020 12:51 pm

Government report:

2,353 new cases, 43,781 total confirmed cases.

19,213 considered recovered

29 new deaths, 450 total deaths

624 on ventilators, 131 critical

569 ventilators available in country

13,171 tests in the last 24 hours, 363,496 total tests

91% of beds in Region metropolitan are occupied.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Sun May 17, 2020 12:57 pm

they opened a new hospital that was under construction early, and reopened an old hospital that had been closed a few years ago. The airforce is flying patients out to the regional hospitals that have capacity, and flying respirators and staff in to Santiago.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Britkid » Sun May 17, 2020 1:27 pm

Britkid wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:19 pm
So on April 29th and all days before then Chile reported 500 or less new cases per day.

Starting from April 30th onwards it became 1000+ per day, suddenly jumped up.

I can't find out what the lag time would be from a reported, detected case (presumably the test occuring on average several days after symptoms and a few days to 2 weeks after infection) to death (does anyone know?) but I'm assuming a few days to 2 weeks (say average a week)??

So, that could mean that the number of deaths, currently stable at around 10 a day, is due to jump up soon to meet the previous cases.
As I metioned above, sadly, the number of deaths has gone up.

This may mean that when the number of reported cases suddenly went up on April 30th, perhaps the number of actual cases really shot up for some reason; it wasn't just a reporting issue. April 30th was double the previous record, and since then every day was similar or higher.

May 14th, 15th 16th and 17th were all around double the previous highest deaths. This may indicate 2 weeks from reported case to death (perhaps similar time lag to being declared recovered).

However, this may also be overly simplistic. It may be a coincidence in the data.

If the theory above is correct (2 week lag time from reported case to death), then I note that the number of cases has surged up again from May 13th, and we can again make a prediction from this data to test if this lag theory is true.

If it's true, we can add two weeks to May 13th, making May 27th. And so we would expect to see the number of deaths stay very roughly around 20-30 per day until very roughly May 27th after which it might increase in the last week of May to around 40-80 per day.

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Post by admin » Sun May 17, 2020 11:18 pm

well pinera addressed the nation.

some new measures, bla, bla, bla.

He did not "screw it up"; but, no roosevelt.







That is the thing that pisses me off, more than anything.

NOT ONE FUCKING WORLD LEADER TODAY CAN GIVE A FUCKING A 'DAY THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY' SPEECH!!!

sorry, you are one sick, twisted, racistist DUMB FUCKING RED NECK HICK if you think Dumb Jackass Trump could possibly do that.

But, and this hurts, in defense of Trump, there is no one else, in any country, that has been able to do it either.
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Post by hlf2888 » Mon May 18, 2020 12:22 am

Instead of making speeches, these women are making progress. https://news.yahoo.com/why-women-led-na ... soc_trk=fb

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Ripsigg » Mon May 18, 2020 1:46 am

admin wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 7:19 am
I actually have a bit of a pet theory I am working on about herd immunity. very much a work in progress, mostly for lack of data.

herd immunity comes with a lot of assumptions. chief among them is a nearly perfect distribution of people. basically everyone has an equal opportunity to be infected at all times.

well, in the same way this virus spread around the World, first taking hold in major transit points (paris, new york, madrid, etc), this virus might burnout on its own as heard immunity takes place in those large, crowed, urban transit locations.

In the same way that big bodies of water produce bigger waves, this virus is transmitted faster in bigger populations. however, once this virus has circulated in bigger city populations, it will become harder for it to be transmitted (apart from the occasional flair-up) to other parts of the country.

so, once wide immunity in major cities is established, we would really only need a much smaller portion of the population to stop or at least retard the spread of the virus to at least a reasonably manageable level, if not have it burn out altogether.

so rather than look at herd immunity as one individual, surrounded by a bunch of immune people, it could be looked at as one herd or group of people, surrounded by other herds or groups.
interesting theory and hope it is correct......

I look at the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic. It clustered first in the transit hubs during the Spring and then in the fall it spread like wildfire other places. 1st wave was clusters, 2nd and successive waves were widespread and then it died itself out because of herd immunity. This seems to be behaving similarly in terms of clustering.....but it's also weird so really anything goes. Maybe all it will ever do is blow up in clusters?

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admin wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:18 pm
sorry, you are one sick, twisted, racistist DUMB FUCKING RED NECK HICK if you think Dumb Jackass Trump could possibly do that.
The guy is just an actor reading his lines. His only real job is to elicit emotion out of people. You're giving him too much credit.

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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nikotromus wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:24 am
admin wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:18 pm
sorry, you are one sick, twisted, racistist DUMB FUCKING RED NECK HICK if you think Dumb Jackass Trump could possibly do that.
The guy is just an actor reading his lines. His only real job is to elicit emotion out of people. You're giving him too much credit.
That is my point. They are crappy actors.

They all sound like they are reading a grocery list.

Is it the teleprompters or something that makes them incapable of delivering a speech?

Is there like a global shortage of competent speech writers?

None of them are able to rally the troops.

We might have the most mediocre to downright incompetent group of World leaders in history right now. I don't think they have been this bad since the last world war / pandemic / depression combo.
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Post by nikotromus » Mon May 18, 2020 8:56 am

I hear ya. Things have gotten so ridiculous it's like a reality breakdown. The Matrix is glitching out.

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Post by 41southchile » Mon May 18, 2020 9:02 am

admin wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:50 am
nikotromus wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:24 am
admin wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:18 pm
sorry, you are one sick, twisted, racistist DUMB FUCKING RED NECK HICK if you think Dumb Jackass Trump could possibly do that.
The guy is just an actor reading his lines. His only real job is to elicit emotion out of people. You're giving him too much credit.
That is my point. They are crappy actors.

They all sound like they are reading a grocery list.

Is it the teleprompters or something that makes them incapable of delivering a speech?

Is there like a global shortage of competent speech writers?

None of them are able to rally the troops.

We might have the most mediocre to downright incompetent group of World leaders in history right now. I don't think they have been this bad since the last world war / pandemic / depression combo.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by tiagoabner » Mon May 18, 2020 10:52 am

The UK claims to have a viable vaccine candidate going through the final steps of the side effects testing. They expect to start vaccination in September.

Source: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus- ... a-11990039
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Mon May 18, 2020 11:01 am

so, seems that france has identified possibly two covid-19 cases in paris back in mid November, prior to there being a test or even the full ID in China of what was going around. they found two patient's chest x-rays that are consistent with covid.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/new- ... o-n1207871

need a lot more details on those cases. That at least points to in the wild cases in China in October.
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