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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by 41southchile » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:44 am

Fire in Aus and pestilence spreading worldwide from Asia, now we just need the famine , and floods? And we will have all 4 horsemen riding My religious MIL thinks the end times are here.
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Post by admin » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:41 am

FYI, that last lecture is really interesting that it makes the link between the great horse flue of 1872 and the spanish flue. The horse flue almost collapsed the entire economy of the United states, because it was all based on the horse. imagine what happen if everyone's car quit running. he even tells the rather infamous story where the u.s. army and the Apache Indians had to fight on foot, because all their horses were sick.

but, that story is also why I think the Spanish flue had more to do with the great depression, than a bunch of stock brokers shuffling paper around in new york. very few people and businesses in those days had anything to do with the stock market.

interesting is that the horse flue was also followed by a global depression. It just does not get called "great".
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:43 am

41southchile wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:44 am
Fire in Aus and pestilence spreading worldwide from Asia, now we just need the famine , and floods? And we will have all 4 horsemen riding My religious MIL thinks the end times are here.
floods, check

famine, check

all we need is the horses of the horsemen, to catch the horse flue.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:28 am

seems japan is now confirming first person to person transmission, outside of china.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by mem » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:00 pm

Confirmed case in Africa now. Only south America and Antarctica continents without confirmed cases yet

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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by tiagoabner » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:46 pm

admin wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:43 am
41southchile wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:44 am
Fire in Aus and pestilence spreading worldwide from Asia, now we just need the famine , and floods? And we will have all 4 horsemen riding My religious MIL thinks the end times are here.
floods, check

famine, check

all we need is the horses of the horsemen, to catch the horse flue.
We also had scuffles between the US and Iran, which could've led to WW3 if the stars aligned correctly. Nice way to start a year.
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Re: Corona Virus!

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Post by admin » Tue Jan 28, 2020 5:21 pm

this is pretty frigen terrifying, if you have seen what we have seen in china. literally the cure might be worse than, well, everything.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.c ... chers-have

mainland china claims to have developed a vaccine; and are claiming they will have it tested and deployed in as little as 40 days.

well, my wife and I taught at an agricultural university in china. one day a german grad student came in and sat down in the back of our class. after everyone had left, she remained, and we walked over to talk to her. she said she just needed to talk to a westerner. then she just broke down in tears.

she told us she came to study acupuncture as a veterinarian medicine techique for pain control in animals. she said what she found was they were intentionally inducing pain and injury3ing animals (broken legs, cuts, other serious injuries), running their experiments, then just leavkng thousands of animals to die in pain. no euthanasia even.

this goes on and on. for example, we learned that the government was actively encouraging students from rural china, to take experimental GMO rice and other crops home to their families to see how it grew in the wild. we are talking thousands of strains, many that produce like their own herbicides and other franken chemicals.

when I see these headlines comparing this to china's "Chernobyl', I don't think most westerners understand just how close that analogy/ metaphor might be to the truth.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:10 am

well looking at some of this mornings reports, this cat is out of the bag. at some point china will likely have to give up on their quarantine.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society ... -surpasses

what is probably slowing the spread to south America more than anything is the lack of direct flights. China to chile is a 24 to 72 hour trip, through at least one or more other countries, switching planes, etc. now that the major carriers are halting flights to china, that becomes even more complicated.

however, we need to wait and see how that plays out, after the lunar new year holiday. We got some Chinese friends and clients that are back in china for the holiday. I am sure there are many other Chinese living in chile that also went home for the holiday.
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Post by admin » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:32 am

hummmmmmm....

in less than 12 hours we get the u.s. gov redirecting the flight out of wuhan of Americans to land at an airforce base rather than at a civilian airport, while en route for "logistics".

meanwhile, Australia and new New Zealand is designating Christmas island for quarantine of people returning. in the immigration detention center no less.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... mas-island

too much caution, or have these govs learned something new in the last day?

sounds more like Leprosy island than fantasy island.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:30 am

how the quarantine in china could backfire.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2 ... ?_amp=true

disturbing is it seems that Beijing is a bit upset that the international press is not giving them more credit for what they have done; which in Chinese culture can lead to doubling down on things to 'save more face'. as opposed to admiting a mistake, and changing course.
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Post by admin » Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:35 am

seems the U.S. planning to quarantine those returning for two weeks in that air force hanger.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-china-51290312
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