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Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:42 pm
by admin
so heard an interview on the radio with Chilean health official about why there was not more agressive precautions and screening at the airport.

anwswer: there are no direct flights from asia to chile and they are depending on other countries in between to do the screening and they are hoping they catch the cases.

hope is not a strategy, in anything; well, at least it is a crappy strategy.

hoping say Panama or mexico catches a carrier is going to bite them in ass sooner or later.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:00 pm
by admin
then there is the growing supply chain crisis: ... ction.html

those are car manufacturers directly, but if those big boys are feeling it, everything else is probably going to get hit sooner or later.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:05 pm
by admin
so if we apply that earlier rule of thumb, that for every case a doctor sees of a bug there are 7 to 8 you don't see, that would mean that we are at something like 500,000 cases at large.

but that is based on a rather fuzzy number now out of mostly china of around 65,000 cases. it could be lot higher, especially taking in to account a very large number of cases of mild symptoms but still contagious.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:14 pm
by admin
so the u.s. is going to evacuate the cruise passengers that have not tested positive, but they will be quarantined for 14 days on return. ... index.html

there is some cryptic threat / slash reference also that i.s. citizens that do not take the charter flight, will not be allowed back in the United states for some time. no futher explanation given.

Strictly speaking, I am really sure how that works legally.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:15 pm
by admin
Egypt has confirmed the first case in Africa. pretty certain that one really is the tip of the iceberg in Africa.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:19 pm
by admin
cnn just reported the cruise ship had another 67 confirmed cases, and get this, they reported the total cases as nearly 3,000 on the ship.

I had to backup the recording and check if she really said that.

then she repeated herself a few mins later and said the number was 300 cases.

not an error you want to hear in the middle of an outbreak.

now they are planning to test everyone on board, and extend the quarantine.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:33 pm
by mem
I think 3000'sh are the total passengers

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:38 am
by admin
ok, 355 passengers on the cruise ship tested positive, out of like 1250 that were tested.

another American tested positive, after they got off that other cruise ship in Cambodia. guess 140 some passengers went through the airport and left the country by the time the American was tested. that was the ship that spent more than a week trying to find a country to let it in, but supposedly had no one infected on board.

closer to home, latam airlines is restricting people that are from china or have been in china from flying on their planes or any of their partners (one world) until March. ... hina.shtml

considering that vast majority of people get to chile on a latam flight, directly or indirectly, that sure makes it hard for anyone that has been near china to get here. will it stop it?

no, but definitely would take a whole lot more work for someone infected to just pop in to chile in under 24 hours, and they would most likely need to change planes at least once to get here.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:57 am
by tiagoabner
Yes, that Latam policy will most likely be more effective than whatever the Chilean government might do. Latam is the only practical way to get to Chile from Oceania, and that's one of the fastest routes coming from Asia.

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:29 pm
by admin
As I recall my wife and I flew back to chile from china many years ago, and it worked out to over 36 hours door to door, with a transfer in Germany to another airline, and refueling in Brazil. there are faster ways to do it, but also the prices go up.

so this seems to so far be a fairly credible case of a Japanese couple contracting the virus while on vacation in Hawaii. ... ding_now_3

numbers updated by china. over 75,000 cases, 1700 deaths. they are suppose to release numbers for all provinces in china shortly. seems they have only been releasing hubai.

and guess what?

The head of the WHO has announced they are arriving in Beijing for their first high level talks about the virus.

WTF have they been doing all this time?

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:19 am
by hlf2888

Re: Corona Virus!

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:57 am
by chilly
Also on that site:

Health: more than 95% of human beings do not wash their hands on a regular basis ... ado-manos/

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