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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:45 pm

anyway, North Korea, has simply got to be off the rails with numbers of infected and dying.

they were ranked last year as the country least capable of handling an epidemic. beyond no health system, they have over 5% of the population with TB and an exploding HIV epidemic already. never mind widespread, regular famines.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by chilly » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:49 pm

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 pm
vice president of iran has tested positive, and met with the entire senior government yesterday including the president.

so, models based on number of infected people originating out of iran project up to 18,000 people in iran could be infected, based on just the cases as of feb 24th.

why it is so bad?

well this article describes what happens at the shrine in the city where it was thought to originate. even more shocking, the government is still promoting it and encouraging people to visit as it is a "place of healing". a local leader claimed 50 people had died there last week, but the government is denying it.

saudi Arabia, for all its faults, has at least closed its boarders to religious tourism. will the keep it closed for the hajj in july?

That would be a very big deal in the Muslim world, and not sure the muslim world would be so understanding about that.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/607150/
I was wondering if a full hijab, covering most of the face, ends up being helpful for the women and if it’s practice is helping out. If you don’t have a mask, does a cloth covering help? Most people won’t have a clean mask after a week or so.

Just wondering...

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Post by admin » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:03 am

chilly wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:49 pm
admin wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:24 pm
vice president of iran has tested positive, and met with the entire senior government yesterday including the president.

so, models based on number of infected people originating out of iran project up to 18,000 people in iran could be infected, based on just the cases as of feb 24th.

why it is so bad?

well this article describes what happens at the shrine in the city where it was thought to originate. even more shocking, the government is still promoting it and encouraging people to visit as it is a "place of healing". a local leader claimed 50 people had died there last week, but the government is denying it.

saudi Arabia, for all its faults, has at least closed its boarders to religious tourism. will the keep it closed for the hajj in july?

That would be a very big deal in the Muslim world, and not sure the muslim world would be so understanding about that.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/607150/
I was wondering if a full hijab, covering most of the face, ends up being helpful for the women and if it’s practice is helping out. If you don’t have a mask, does a cloth covering help? Most people won’t have a clean mask after a week or so.

Just wondering...
probably not much, especially if it is not worn in a home or among close relatives, in a large family setting.
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Post by admin » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:08 am

well, getting to the point where speculation is arising about countries' ability to maintain political stability.

Iobvioisly intel community is focusing on it; but, a more general fear is a widespread outbreak destabilize a nuclear country or simply one with a lot of arms.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL2N2AR1YG

India or Pakistan for instance. north korea probably has a sufficiently robust boot on the neck of the country. however, some of the more internally conflicted countries might be in real trouble if the entire society get's undermined dealing with this.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by Ripsigg » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:50 am

admin wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:44 am

Yea, just what this pandemic needs, "let's pray it away" Pence managing this.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4887566002

Perhaps he will invite some of the mullahs in Iran and priest from that church in Korea for a prayer meeting at the oval office.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by nwdiver » Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:18 am

Canada has decided to test a sample across the country, they are seeing so many mild cases in China that are no worse than a cold so it may be more common than thought.....
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by chilly » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:32 am

I’m confused on Chile’s Official Covid19 status.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... s.html#map

As of 11:00 a.m. ET February 27, 2020

Chile is not on the “confirmed” map. Has Chile actually confirmed the last case or are they keeping cases in some type of testing limbo?

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Post by admin » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:49 am

chilly wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:32 am
I’m confused on Chile’s Official Covid19 status.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... s.html#map

As of 11:00 a.m. ET February 27, 2020

Chile is not on the “confirmed” map. Has Chile actually confirmed the last case or are they keeping cases in some type of testing limbo?
There are no confirmed cases in Chile, so far.

They keep testing candidates, but still none have shown up.
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Post by admin » Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:50 am

Talked to a friend Bologna Italy yesterday. she says everything is normal, and mostly media over hype. will check back with her next week. The one I should talk to is her brother, that is doctor in madrid.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:38 am

as I suspected, the frigen health minster is progressively backing down on the cost of the test.

no more than 14,000 pesos at the labs associated with fonasa for anyone.

free for most types of FONASA, and high risk groups

https://www.biobiochile.cl/noticias/nac ... irus.shtml

but this needs to be dialed back to zero costs for everyone.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by 41southchile » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:03 am

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Add New Zealand to the list of countries that have cases, a patient that flew in from Iran tested positive . They were still free, like Chile, up untill a few hours ago .
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health ... oronavirus
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by tiagoabner » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:10 am

The issue with cases in New Zealand is that they're the gateway to multiple Pacific countries that have no infrastructure to take care of an epidemic on their own. I seriously hope that the Kiwis have their game on, as the consequences can be pretty sure otherwise.
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