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Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:24 am
by admin
funny story about the human rights institute.

I have a young friend that is a third year law student that volunteers for them, and was out on the front lines as an observer after the 18-0.

In fact my wife and I sort of gave him a good shove that way. He is good kid, smart, but also comes from and extremely left family and he is pretty on the communist side of the spectrum. his heart is in the right place, but a lot of young people throughout history have died for causes with their heart in the right place, at the wrong time.

We were afraid when this all started he would do something stupid and join the protesters like a lot of his friends; either getting arrested and destroying his career, or worse get himself killed if this mess turned bloody.

so my wife and I really worked over his mother to convince her to put a short leash on him (she might be a communist, but she is still a mother); but, at the same time, we kind of did not want to deny him the opportunity to be front and center to witness such a historic event of his generation. so shoving him towards the human rights institute was the next best option. besides trying to stop him would have been pointless at his age.

last time I seen him I was teasing him that I wanted to file a human rights claim. his revolution sucks, and if I am going to have to suffer through a revolution, it needs to be more interesting. I want my money back on the ticket.

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:11 am
by fraggle092
tiagoabner wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:02 pm
.... The protestors have managed to fuck up Chile above and beyond my expectations.
Not just you.
Just two or three years ago, Piñera said:
...“queremos hacer de Chile un país desarrollado como los europeos Portugal y República Checa y que terminemos con la lacra de la pobreza”.
Its not just the protesters either, the local mindset only superficially resembles that in more civilized places.
Takes a while to see that, even from the inside.

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:44 pm
by tiagoabner
fraggle092 wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:11 am
tiagoabner wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:02 pm
.... The protestors have managed to fuck up Chile above and beyond my expectations.
Not just you.
Just two or three years ago, Piñera said:
...“queremos hacer de Chile un país desarrollado como los europeos Portugal y República Checa y que terminemos con la lacra de la pobreza”.
Its not just the protesters either, the local mindset only superficially resembles that in more civilized places.
Takes a while to see that, even from the inside.
The most surprising part to me is that the protestors don't seem to notice or care about how much they're setting their own country back. They can't relate economic prosperity with better living conditions.

I mean, if you burn businesses, of course people are going to lose their jobs.

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:46 pm
by FrankPintor
admin wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:22 pm
The Argentinans are doing a better job of promoting and supporting tourism in the Chilean Patagonia, than the fucking Santiago government.
I'm just back from my holiday in Colombia so I'm just catching up :-) I don't know that Argentina promotes much tourism, or even makes it easy (the 10% fee for ATM withdrawals is a real bummer), but the country is hugely underrated, Argentinians at least in their own country are honest, easy to talk to, the country is pretty safe (I think you were here last year and mentioned something about a child kidnapping and rape thing, really, it's not dangerous in Buenos Aires, and if anything happens the yellow press is all over it).

So come on over and spend your pesos here :-D let's get this country moving again.

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:44 pm
by admin
FrankPintor wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:46 pm
admin wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:22 pm
The Argentinans are doing a better job of promoting and supporting tourism in the Chilean Patagonia, than the fucking Santiago government.
I'm just back from my holiday in Colombia so I'm just catching up :-) I don't know that Argentina promotes much tourism, or even makes it easy (the 10% fee for ATM withdrawals is a real bummer), but the country is hugely underrated, Argentinians at least in their own country are honest, easy to talk to, the country is pretty safe (I think you were here last year and mentioned something about a child kidnapping and rape thing, really, it's not dangerous in Buenos Aires, and if anything happens the yellow press is all over it).

So come on over and spend your pesos here :-D let's get this country moving again.
o.k., will do right away.

just popped a cork on a malbec at a hotel in front of the beagle channel.

:lol:

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:08 pm
by FrankPintor
admin wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:44 pm
FrankPintor wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:46 pm
admin wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:22 pm
The Argentinans are doing a better job of promoting and supporting tourism in the Chilean Patagonia, than the fucking Santiago government.
I'm just back from my holiday in Colombia so I'm just catching up :-) I don't know that Argentina promotes much tourism, or even makes it easy (the 10% fee for ATM withdrawals is a real bummer), but the country is hugely underrated, Argentinians at least in their own country are honest, easy to talk to, the country is pretty safe (I think you were here last year and mentioned something about a child kidnapping and rape thing, really, it's not dangerous in Buenos Aires, and if anything happens the yellow press is all over it).

So come on over and spend your pesos here :-D let's get this country moving again.
o.k., will do right away.

just popped a cork on a malbec at a hotel in front of the beagle channel.

:lol:
There you go :D how much did your Malbec cost? I go to Tonel Privado here, their special offers are about 400 pesos for a 2:1 wine from 2014 or older. I hope I'm never moved from here ;-)

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:36 pm
by admin
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Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:38 pm
by admin
lugi bosca, 2017 malbec.

don't know what it cost. my wife is buying.

I learned long ago, it is much cheaper to stick her with the bill. :lol:

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:47 pm
by admin
hey, FYI there seems to be some sort of roaming deal now between Argentina and chile. i know they were suppose to eliminate roaming fees completely, but at least for this trip as soon as we entered the country we got a text message saying i had 15 days of roaming, and my wife had 10 days in 30 days. every time I left Argentina, i recieved a text it was suspended until i entered again. works perfectly. we use to have to buy packages.

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:50 pm
by admin
now if we could just get them to eliminate the silly boarder beurocracy. like no boarder. just a sign and a flag perhaps.

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:02 pm
by FrankPintor
Yeah, I know, a very long time ago, a Mexican friend explained that people like you and me have the price written on our foreheads. In Argentina there's no gringo tax, since they imagine themselves to be all descended from Europeans, so things are easier here ;-)

Re: The Economic Impact of the Social Crisis

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:05 pm
by FrankPintor
I'm not sure about the roaming, it would depend on the operator, Claro wanted to do away with roaming but I'm not sure how that went. And a sign and a flag is basically what you get here, I've not been to a country that's so relaxed about immigration. I can apply for citizenship here this year.