cali_chile48 wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:05 am
I am still holding out hope that, given enough time, the country can produce a better constitution than the one in place now, and perhaps even a good model for other Latin American countries.
There are enough smart people in the Chile to accomplish this. It will require a sustained effort and lots of patience, a willingness to dialogue and make compromises, and a willingness to put the welfare of the republic and the masses ahead of personal gains and party loyalty.
Yes, I can hear everyone on the forum chuckling at the idea of patient, pragmatic Chileans....but....as I said, the stakes are pretty high, so it may the fear of continued chaos more than the love of country that finally produces something.
Not to be negative, I think maybe there is still a sliver of hope , but there is also realism and forwad planning, these are just thoughts from my conversations with Chileans over the years.
You right there are smart people in Chile (at the moment, quite a few are looking at seriously leaving) unfortunately theres a LOT of self interested uneducated, short sighted idiots too.
I dont think anyone , well not me at least, is chuckling, you right the stakes are so high but there are so many people that have so much self interest they are not going to get it done.
I mentioned the other day this was harder than Brexit, I actually heard a commentator on the radio say that the other day, this is like 3 Brexits rolled into one.
Less than half the people I have talked to think a new constitution is the answer , the rest dont think it will solve anything and will not be done right or they are ignorant.
The culture and mindset of so many needs to change and that's not an easy task . From the teenage kids that destroy their own schools with parents who take no responsibility for their kids and blame the teachers or the government or whoever else. Right through to the colluding businessmen at the other end who doesnt think twice about screwing over his own brother.
Look at how the UP , Pinochet years destroyed the social fabric of the country, and that was nearly 50 years ago and the country lives under that cloud everyday. It wasn't the Chicago boys that created Inequality those divisions became apparent in the 1970s and 1980s through the political mistrust and social divisions through the establishment of ghettos and poblaciones that developed in society, plus other things.
Divisions and mistrust that are just as strong today as they were decades ago, you cant wipe that away and all come together in unity in a few months/years/decades to have a brand new constitution everyone will be happy with, no matter how much the country burns. And the deeper the crisis goes, the more likely a Bolsonaro, Trump, even Hitler type (different scenario I know) comes along. Economic crises bring about populists and bullshit promises from them which ultimately make things worse. Do you think the majority of people here realize that ? Do they think Chile is somehow unique and immune to what has pretty much always happened in history? If so , carry on , great lets get it done, if not, ....
People here still celebrate Pinochets birthday and say he never finished the job properly, people here will key a flash car when they walk past it just because they think the owners are cuico. The emotions and animosity and everything else that has been passed down the generations is truly eye opening in a supposed civil society .
Anyone that thinks this an easy process and all will be set to go by October next year should start sending their letters to Santa Claus too.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science. - Darwin