Let us write a constitution for Chile.

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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by fraggle092 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:01 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:12 am
Since Chile taxation is residency based, Chilean expats should not be able to vote. Only those with skin in the game (resident) should vote.
Agree, Chileans living permanently abroad should not have the right to vote. They are mostly lefties, which is why Bachelet's government introduced this costly, and in terms of votes cast, irrelevant change to the system.
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by admin » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:19 am

So this stupidly continues. I seen the right udi now is proposing quotas for the churches, etc.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... ucion.html

oh, and the left has tacked on crap that would insure the constitutional congress, get paid for three years.
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by admin » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:30 am

I am totally willing to vote for a communist, gay transgender mapuche "women", if she / he is qualified and can sell me on having good ideas for a constitution and the country; but, don't dilute my right to vote for them, or not, with pre-rigged quota bullshit.
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by Zenth » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:38 pm

One person, one vote as long as you’re a Citizen. Citizens living overseas included.
Keep it simple.

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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by fraggle092 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:15 pm

Zenth wrote:
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One person, one vote as long as you’re a Citizen. Citizens living overseas included.
Keep it simple.
You are of course aware that PRs can vote. I voted the last two presidential elections.
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:19 pm

I'd give up my PR vote if Chilean expats were excluded as was before the last Batchoshit administration.
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by fraggle092 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:06 pm

Getting back to the subject, does this help?
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Not that it matters, the current "unrest" is a manufactured crock of shit.
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by Zenth » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:13 pm

I didn't know Permanent Residents could vote in Chile. Thank you for educating me.

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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by admin » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:11 am

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:19 pm
I'd give up my PR vote if Chilean expats were excluded as was before the last Batchoshit administration.
I would not worry too much about that crowd by themselves.

They are a fairly small group in the big picture. They can not enforce mandatory voting for them, and they are not all lefty.

I just had dinner with some chileans that left as allende was in charge, and one just went off with, 'call out the military, and kill all the commies' rant.

we often forget their are two types of "exhiles" out there, just the first group never was really treated as "political exhiles".
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by admin » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:43 am

so, this survey that is out, demonstrates exactly why I think screwing around with the constitution right now is a bad idea. yes, chile could use a new constitution, but is extraordinarily dangerous with this level of ignorance and education about it.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... adano.html

The majority of chileans surveyed don't even know who or how this agreement to write a new constitution came about.

somehow 10% did not even hear anything about it.

Think this deserves a, where the fuck have all these chileans been living for the last month?
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:51 am

The narcos, barras bravas, delinquentes, lumpen = 10%

Never been so busy working in their entire lives (looting, destroying, etc.).
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Re: Let us write a constitution for Chile.

Post by admin » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:55 am

My only explanation for this is that Chileans, as a culture, can be shockingly intellectually lazy.

I don't expect everyone in a population to be super well informed, or be able to do advanced math or physics; but, a little bit of 'think this one through a little more' would probably be in order, for your own good.
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