Dosedmonkey wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:01 pm
The Carabineros were struggling with criminal elements before this disorder. A couple of suburbs of Santiago were no go areas a less they had enough Carabineros for a shoot out, and it had to be an organised operation. This situation has pushed them past what they can manage by normal policing means, hence the mass use of pellet shotguns after the army was withdrawn. If they deployed the army again, at least they would have enough hands to make mass arrests. As we saw of looters by military in the first week. But fatigue is setting in, so expect Carabineros to either start to get more violent or losing control. Just waiting for the deaths to roll in.
The military could easily control the country, but it would be using live ammunition and detentions on the populas. It would pull Chile down to the dark ages.
Anyone who thinks a small loss for a big gain in the long run has no idea about history. Popular uprisings cause so much destruction and damage to property and economy, the countries don't heal for a much much longer time, by time which the new youth have forgotten what happened and are protesting again because they had nothing from the new failed system.
As rightly said the youth have very poor education and next to no hope, compounded by communist professors at the schools. They are desperate for change. This combined with the violence that exists day to day in Santiago anyway, it really isn't surprising it's boiled over.
Mem says there hasn't been violent protests before. But the 7 years I lived on Santiago there was violent protests every single year. Tear gas and looting. Just on a much smaller scale.
There is now at Carabineros needs to infiltrate as some suggest. I have seen with my own eyes, how if the Carabineros don't play nice/dance/smile at youths as they pass, a confrontation can spark out of no where. There is a lot of hate towards the pacos from parents instilled on their children. Half the time it is because the parent broke a law and the Paco probably just took his details, maybe fined them. I had been threatened whilst driving my car in Santiago. And I have seen others attacked, once at gun point in theirs cars. Chile has a violence problem, but it's the culture and justice system that does not punish criminals, especially minors, that has caused it. It is the thought that they will get away with it, which allows them to do these things.
A less there is 16 year old Carabineros then I have seen Molotov and fires and rocks throw by youths over the years. The train from Santiago to Buin zoo was always famous for youths throwing big rocks at it, as it passed San Bernardo.
They needed to improve education and then health care. But most importantly education. And could of prevented all this., And helped the economy.
A lot of USA commentators on twitter want to make this a comminist Vs state. They really did brain wash US citizens during the cold war well in to suspecting everyone's a communist. There is a huge difference between socialist reform and communism. Would you call England communist just because it had socialist reform which gave it a national health service for all?
And then you get all the left wing commentators pretending Pinera is a dictator... That is just dumb, most of them pretending to be political commentators, but don't know what an elected government is.