State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:00 pm

at46 wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:20 pm
One good thing is that the air quality is insanely awesome these last couple of days here on the coast, and pretty much everywhere else in the country, both on the No2 and PM2.5 measures https://www.windy.com/-NO2-no2?cams,no2 ... ,-71.931,7
what is the tear gas reading?

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by tiagoabner » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:02 pm

There's another protest brewing on Plaza Itália right now. This is far from over
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:11 pm

41southchile wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:56 pm
So the truth comes out from Insulza (socialist)
It's ok for him not to be embarrassed by his salary, but a private entertainer/actor or whatever her role is , should be. Typical socialist logic.
https://www.emol.com/noticias/Espectacu ... arios.html
simple, Tonka is hot, and a pretty good morning hostess (not crazy about the new haircut).

The socialist wanker is way too frigen ugly to justify his pay. More people listen to Tonka everyday than that wanker, ever.

I bet if Tonka ran for president, it would be a landslide win. All the other candidates would simply drop out of the race.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by 41southchile » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:17 pm

tiagoabner wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:02 pm
There's another protest brewing on Plaza Itália right now. This is far from over
This is still training for Apec, we at what stage now? 6?
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by 41southchile » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:23 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:11 pm
41southchile wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:56 pm
So the truth comes out from Insulza (socialist)
It's ok for him not to be embarrassed by his salary, but a private entertainer/actor or whatever her role is , should be. Typical socialist logic.
https://www.emol.com/noticias/Espectacu ... arios.html
simple, Tonka is hot, and a pretty good morning hostess (not crazy about the new haircut).

The socialist wanker is way too frigen ugly to justify his pay. More people listen to Tonka everyday than that wanker, ever.

I bet if Tonka ran for president, it would be a landslide win. All the other candidates would simply drop out of the race.
Haha, appart from the typical no clue idealistic straight out of a uni communist manifesto or something like that, comments that the office boy at the studio should be on the same wage as her, at least some of the other comments were along similar lines too admin, "I can see the white powder under his nose" "old fart on the take get lost and retire already" and other such humorous comments in buenchileno.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by fraggle092 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:37 pm

RuneTheChookcha wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 4:52 pm
Cases of stoned micros in Valpo. Several micro lines suspended.
Someone posted a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr8MhH23CZU
Just 14 seconds.
Nothing new then. From 1983:
Otras formas de alterar el orden público fueron los ataques, asaltos y saqueos a locales comerciales que permanecían abiertos. También se atacaron terminales de locomoci6n colectiva, se apedrearon e incendiaron vehículos; se destruyeron semáforos o postes de alumbrado; se atacaron cuarteles de Carabineros e investigaciones, estaciones del metro, recintos eclesiásticos, casetas municipales, etc
http://www.memoriachilena.gob.cl/archiv ... 033342.pdf
La locomoción durante el día de la protesta intentó
realizar sus funciones, pero les fue imposible por el apedreo de las máquinas, la
destrucción de sus neumáticos a causa de los “miguelitos” y porque las principales
avenidas estaban saturadas con neumáticos en llamas, piedras de grueso calibre,
escombros y troncos de árboles esparcidos por los habitantes de la comuna.
http://www.scielo.org.co/pdf/histo/v11n ... -21-91.pdf
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:41 pm

well, then we got the left pushing for a new constitution.

https://www.emol.com/noticias/Nacional/ ... ilena.html

That is quite possibly the most dangerous Idea in chile right now. Fine, want to reform the current one, piece by piece, go for it; but, a new constitution really could burn chile to ground. Especially if they inject their socialist fantasies in to it.

I am pretty certain, 99.9% of the Chilean population does not even understand what that means.

I was taking a graduate class in early modern philosophy years ago. The professor was the head of the ethics and policy department, Dr. walton. He had half a dozen PhDs, well read and super well published. Many on exactly the topic of constitutions

We got to talking about constitutions throughout history. The good ones. The bad ones. Someone asked him if he thought he could write one. He said, "sure, but it would not be very good".

Even if they wrote the best constitution ever, it would take another 50 years to work the kinks out.

Hell, everyone thinks the u.s. constitution was some perfectly born document. Go compare an orginal copy, to one of those with the markups of what has been added and subtracted to it over the years. I think the "we the people" part is about all that is held over by the orginal, and the meaning of that has even changed. someone pointed out on a talk show today, the united states did not even really become a sort of a "democracy" until the 70's when blacks were finally fully able to vote.

finally, there is one big, big problem with that idea. There is no legal mechanism in the current constitution to write a new one. There is the ability to change the current one, but not write a new one. Under what legal authority would that happen?
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by 41southchile » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:44 pm

No school for the rest of the week in Puerto Montt or Concepcion so don't expect protests and traffic disruptions, stone throwing and burning tyres and other such peaceful protests to quieten down anytime this week in those places at least. The mayor's are Just thinking of the students safety of course 🤔. Sopechosa la wea
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by tiagoabner » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:48 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:41 pm
Under what legal authority would that happen?
I heard some government institutions like to use "circulares"/internal memorandos as if they were part of the law, haha.

Seriously, though. I think the way would be to change to current constitution to add the mechanism to create a new constitution, and then follow said procedure.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:04 pm

I was just thinking about why there is no mechanism to replace the constitution.

I realized it was simple: ego

no one writes a constitution, then at the end adds something like:

Article 3092: If you don't like this constitution, feel free to write your own.

Everybody thinks their constitution is the best ever, so why would anyone want to replace it?
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:07 pm

tiagoabner wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:48 pm
admin wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:41 pm
Under what legal authority would that happen?
I heard some government institutions like to use circulars as if they were part of the law, haha.

Seriously, though. I think the way would be to change to current constitution to add the mechanism to create a new constitution, and then follow said procedure.
Yea, hear Trump likes those circulars too. :lol:

yea, the very process of trying to agree on that process, would kill the whole process.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:09 pm

the constitution rewrite is a political sideshow by the left.

nothing that is being demanded by the protestors, requires a new constitution. In fact 99% of their demands, are laws they don't like, that were written and passed by guess who?

the left.
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