State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by fraggle092 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:09 pm

No I just put it in to be misunderstood. Did add some clarification though after you quoted me.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by 41southchile » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:10 pm

tiagoabner wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:31 pm
Explosives next to 1 million people: what could go wrong?
Now Baquedano metro burning, a LOT could go wrong, this could end in tragedy with 1.5 million people there.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:10 pm

Well let's see what happens in the next 8 hours. All this touchy feely stuff may be completely reversed.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:15 pm

now, how do you show them all the door?

I say they stay. show the government you don't want or need a state of emergency, curfew, and military in the streets

I bet they stay after curfew, and long as they are peaceful and the military backs off let's, there is the makings of one of the most important moments in chilean history to occur here tonight.

now will they realize the potential?
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by fraggle092 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:25 pm

admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:15 pm
I say they stay. show the government you don't want or need a state of emergency, curfew, and military in the streets
Law and order were not even on the streets when the metro fires started. And that's precisely why they got started.
Right now, any attempt at control would be disastrous though....
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:33 pm

admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:15 pm
now, how do you show them all the door?

I say they stay. show the government you don't want or need a state of emergency, curfew, and military in the streets

I bet they stay after curfew, and long as they are peaceful and the military backs off let's, there is the makings of one of the most important moments in chilean history to occur here tonight.

now will they realize the potential?
then pinera needs to follow up, and make a statement.

I hear you.

We are ending this.

no mas. no menos.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by tiagoabner » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:35 pm

admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:33 pm
admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:15 pm
now, how do you show them all the door?

I say they stay. show the government you don't want or need a state of emergency, curfew, and military in the streets

I bet they stay after curfew, and long as they are peaceful and the military backs off let's, there is the makings of one of the most important moments in chilean history to occur here tonight.

now will they realize the potential?
then pinera needs to follow up, and make a statement.

I hear you.

We are ending this.

no mas. no menos.
Serious question, though: what can he do without going through the Congress? I mean, he should be able to call off the emergency state, but can he do more than that?
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:40 pm

tiagoabner wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:35 pm
admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:33 pm
admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:15 pm
now, how do you show them all the door?

I say they stay. show the government you don't want or need a state of emergency, curfew, and military in the streets

I bet they stay after curfew, and long as they are peaceful and the military backs off let's, there is the makings of one of the most important moments in chilean history to occur here tonight.

now will they realize the potential?
then pinera needs to follow up, and make a statement.

I hear you.

We are ending this.

no mas. no menos.
Serious question, though: what can he do without going through the Congress? I mean, he should be able to call off the emergency state, but can he do more than that?
That is a long discussion. lets put a pin in it.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:44 pm

What the hell is the structure with the arch windows burning?
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by Dosedmonkey » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:45 pm

mem wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:44 pm

I don't blame Pinera...of couse hindsight is 20/20...but I also know that very few of us every would have though we would be seeing this 4 weeks ago...we would have thought you were nuts. So we can nitpick what Pinera should or shouldnt have done, but the truth is basically everyone from us to the government were blindsided by the brazen criminal acts parading around under the facade of "protest"
I disagree. I saw this coming, or a war with Peru or Bolivia. When the student protests happened in 2011 they were so small scale but still they put rocks through my apartments windows and cars. And destroyed the centre pretty systematically. Looted pharmacies and shops. And that was just a small group of anarchists. At the time I didn't read Chilean news or such and thought it was the norm.

I think the government were very aware how systematically the Metro was hit on Friday and the scale of what was happening, and so made the right call to get the military out. As they have done with the large fires in Valpo 2014/15 and the earthquake 2010. Although the right thing strategically, isn't the right thing politically. If they waited for more chaos before using the military they might of been more popular.

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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by admin » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:45 pm

admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:33 pm
admin wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:15 pm
now, how do you show them all the door?

I say they stay. show the government you don't want or need a state of emergency, curfew, and military in the streets

I bet they stay after curfew, and long as they are peaceful and the military backs off let's, there is the makings of one of the most important moments in chilean history to occur here tonight.

now will they realize the potential?
then pinera needs to follow up, and make a statement.

I hear you.

We are ending this.

no mas. no menos.
in other words,

Don't turn this in to a Chilean football game, where they do super good, and then at the last moment everyone gets nervous and falls apart.
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Re: State of emergency and curfews, October 2019

Post by Sr. El Puelche » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:48 pm

O sea, que no dejan la escoba, po.


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