coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:40 pm

Government report:

4,942 new cases, 113,628 total confirmed cases

87 new deaths, 1,275 total deaths

33 are added under to the new critera

21,000 considered actively contagious

97% UCI beds in region metropolitan are occupied

88% in the country

330 ventilators available

15,538 test yesterday, 628,318 total tests completed
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:50 am

so both mexico and brazil have passed the 1,000 deaths a day.

The Mexican government has bluntly stated they are not going to bother testing because it is too expensive.

I am concerned in latin america is not even a first wave vs. second wave: more of a one big tsunami wave.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:05 pm

Government report:

4,664 new cases, 118,292 total confirmed cases

81 new deaths, 1,356 total deaths

31 deaths under the old criteria, 50 deaths included under the new criteria to include those without a confirmed PCR test completed at the time of death.

21,305 considered actively contagious

323 ventilators available

18,140 test yesterday, 646,458 total tests completed
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Billhere » Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:04 pm

Chile has been very fortunate at present, the death rate is low, but rising. While people fail to observe the distancing rule, or isolation, it will continue to rise.

Numbers of deaths in the UK have been falling (still too high), but Manchester has just reported a sudden spike in infections which falls in line with the fine weather of the last two weekends and the failure to observe the distancing rules in parks and gatherings, especially by young people. Second wave on the way.

More distancing and self isolation for us mouldy oldies, and it is not going away.

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Post by admin » Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:37 am

u.s. nursing home occupancy down more than 10%. No one has accurate numbers, and it sure looks like the nursing home industry wants to keep it that way.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/u-s-nu ... 1591315220

There is one nursing home chain, with 350 nursing homes, that appears it has more deaths than Chile and a lot of other countries.

on the flip side, there is a nursing home in england where the staff has been living there for 50 days, no one in or out, and they have zero deaths. It is possible. hard, but possible.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:47 am

Government report:

4,207 new cases, 122,499 total confirmed cases

92 new deaths, 1448 total deaths

22 were under the old criteria, the rest is under the new criteria

21,693 considered actively contagious

327 ventilators available

21,780 test yesterday, 668,556 total tests completed
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by tiagoabner » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:59 am

admin wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:47 am
22 were under the old criteria, the rest is under the new criteria
Quick question: are they adjusting the numbers for those that died with pending tests, but then came out as negative later on? I've tried to do some research on this, but I couldn't find any info.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:16 pm

tiagoabner wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:59 am
admin wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:47 am
22 were under the old criteria, the rest is under the new criteria
Quick question: are they adjusting the numbers for those that died with pending tests, but then came out as negative later on? I've tried to do some research on this, but I couldn't find any info.
yea, I have not been able to get an answer to that either.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:22 pm

The answer I just got from this mornings press conference was that they back validated the numbers against prior cases, determined that vast majority of the "suspect" or "presumptive" cases later tested postive by PCR; and that negative cases were so statistically insignificant, that they are not going to try to correct for them by subtracting the few from the overall number later when they confirm negative by PCR test for those few cases.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by admin » Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:35 pm

So, to try and make sense of that thinking.

say 100 people go to the hospital with covid like symptoms, and die.

all 100 are suspect of having died of covid, but do not get the PCR test before they die to confirm.

People tend to often not go to the hospital until they are in extremely bad state, or do not make it to the hospital at all. Covid is also know to take a sudden turn for the worse.

later, say 96 come back positive by PCR test.

Does it really matter, from a national resource management perspective?

If say all had pneumonia and died, were you going to treat them differently?

were they not going to get a ventilator, simply because they did not get covid?

were you going to wait another few days to start tracing and testing their contacts?
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by tiagoabner » Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:36 pm

admin wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:35 pm

Does it really matter, from a national resource management perspective?
I don't believe that it matters now. The house is on fire, so putting off the fire is the top priority. But it would make sense to keep an eye out for that in order to get accurate numbers, say, in 2-5 years, so that experts can do analysis with those numbers.

I also think that getting these numbers corrected would help with non-believers, as one of their arguments is that no one is keeping an accurate count of cases and deaths.
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Re: coronavirus (COVID-19) in Chile

Post by Britkid » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:30 pm

so does this mean all the previous reported deaths were too low in reality?

that the reason Chile has a low death rate vs total cases has bene just due to data reporting?

to compare with old numbers, we need to look at the lower "old methodology" numbers. meaning real deaths are actually declining this week vs last week if you compare like to like?

is that right?

I am a bit confused at the moment

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