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Re: Open subjects

Post by texasdiver » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:11 pm

marti wrote:And when Valpo doesn't make the news, it's the same old Valpo, where "microbasural" was invented.

Some like 520 of them in the last census.

Valpo is the pisspot of the country.

In all of Latin America, I mean, Letrine America, I have only encountered one city filthier than Valpo, and that was an oil-town in Argentina.
Have you been to Salvador Brazil? Reminds me some of Valpo. They even elevators. Much scarier and dirtier town than Valpo.

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Re: Open subjects

Post by john » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:31 pm

marti wrote:
john wrote:
And, paradoxically, Valpo is one of the most beautiful cities in the Americas.
roflmao

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The best advice you can give to a prospective visitor to Valpo is not where to eat or when a museum opens, but what to do after they have been robbed.

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http://www.lanacion.cl/experto-de-la-un ... 21925.html

http://www.lasegunda.com/Noticias/Nacio ... -Humanidad

Patrimonio de la Humanidad, my ass. Cloaca del Hemisferio.
I've been in Valpo hundreds of times and never been robbed.
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Re: Open subjects

Post by Space Cat » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:26 pm

Donnybrook wrote:There is, indeed, no perfect country. You move from one to the other and - once the nostalgia for the last place wears off - you realize that. I think my perfect country would have to contain bits of each of the several places I have lived or, at least, the bits that were there when I lived there. Countries change, we change, each of us looks for different things. My list changes too. I could no longer take a harsh winter with piles of snow, although I have fond memories of a year in New England with its spectacular autumn. I guess the most you can hope for is an OK country, once you have added up all the pros and subtracted the cons. On that score, Chile works well for me but doesn't for everyone and I guess Norway is the same.
I giggle every time when visitors of this forum complain about some "first world problems" in Chile. The country that has 80+ years life expectancy, 3/100k homicide rate, stands at ~#20 in corruption-free ratings and ~#30 for easiness of business.

You should try to live in Russia or other non-EU post-USSR country where life expectancy is 65 (because of crime, ecology and poor food quality), homicide rate 7-10/100k, corruption and ease of doing business indices are about 130th place. And when you're getting bad service that's not because somebody is too lazy but because (s)he hates you without any serious reason.

I traveled in US and UK but all the "developed" countries are too stressful to live. Too many things happening at the same time.
For me Chile is balanced enough to spend many years here, maybe even life. It's relaxing here.

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Post by marti » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:17 pm

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Post by marti » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:32 pm

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Post by David_Bro » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:06 pm

Maybe it's like this today---I don't know----but riding around Valpo back in the day, each hill had its deal going on so I remember going through and it would be all bus drivers or all bakers----I remember up above Cerro Artilleria, it was all retired seaman ---so literally going through on a sunny day, here they were taking the sun sitting out in their chairs on the sidewalk with most disfigured or missing one or two limbs---

The first time I was in Valpo, back in the 18880's, I decided the best way to see it would be to spend a week just riding the buses so I did this for three days or so----I would just get on a bus and ride it to the end and then get on the next one. So on this one afternoon I was on this bus serving the southern most hills in Valpo-----Rode it out to the end to where the bus came to the stop in the bus yard and the driver looks at me as I am the only one and I explain, okay but he would be leaving in 15 minutes and I would have to pay again for the ride out----after my 50 pesos are paid out, I have me tiny postage stamp ticket, he has a smoke and about 10 minutes of a soccer game in the dirt with the other drivers and we are off----we are 3 meters out of the the yard and we have passengers and going down this gigantically long and steep heading right for Plaza Sotomayor----I am in the front seat just to the right of the driver and it's not too far and I notice we are hauling ass downhill and not stopping at the paraderos----I mean really fast and I notice the driver pumping the brakes----we are really hauling ass now and it's obvious this is going to end badly-----

SO the driver pulls by some other bus he would ordinarily be working to steal passengers from and this other bus pulls out beyond us somehow and we pull in behind him where we are soon rubbing on his back bumper and coming to a stop-----emergency brakes Valpo style----so we come to a stop more hand signals are exchanged and the other bus departs where by our driver allows our bus to move forward a few meters at a time as he tests the brakes---we stop tightly each time like we are supposed too----finally an old woman complains the bus has no brakes and she wants her money back---the driver quickly interrupts her to say that she, as well as anyone else that wants to get off the bus, can do so but there will be no refunds----staring at his passengers for a good 20 seconds as he waited for anyone to get off-----NO ONE gets off-----we depart again with everything functioning fine----

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Re: Open subjects

Post by marti » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:19 pm

SCL wrote:
To constantly denigrate and belittle cities, people, and places gets old and revolting pretty quickly.


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I understand that some of our readers suffer from short attention spans and difficulty with reading comprehension. If it will keep you amused and suit your personal needs, wishes and limited range of admissible topics, I could plan to move on to commenting on Albanian towns of between 3000 and 19,000 inhabitants, watercraft, insects belonging to order Diptera, wool hats, rear-fanged lizards, Ptolemaic astronomy, cane furniture, 19th century anthropometric studies, hot beverages, deterministic modeling, average pricing for used books which mention Roy Chapman Andrews, and fricative consonants.
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Re: Open subjects

Post by Andres » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:26 pm

john wrote:I've been in Valpo hundreds of times and never been robbed.
I have been there once, and was, but never anywhere else.
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Re: Open subjects

Post by David_Bro » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:52 pm

Personally, I would like to see a complete and unabridged explanation of exactly what the point of cricket is-----

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Re: Open subjects

Post by marti » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:56 pm

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Post by David_Bro » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:00 pm

SO would I----

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Re: Open subjects

Post by john » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:57 am

marti wrote:
john wrote:

I've been in Valpo hundreds of times and never been robbed.
That puts you in the rarefied probabilistic class alongside red-headed astronauts, lottery winners, and persons who have not yet been robbed in Valparaiso.
Russell Louis Schweizkart, Stuart A. Roosa and Ed While were red-headed astronauts. Presumably, there are one or two red-heads among the current group of astronauts. Doesn't sound like rarefied probabilistic class to me. :wink:
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