Argentina - they didn't learn last time

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Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by GJJIM » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:48 pm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 029609.ece

Seems Argentina doesn't like Brits looking for oil around the Falklands. The last time they tried to assert sovereignty in that area, it turned out so well for them. :roll:

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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by JHyre » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:48 pm

True. Of course the British are now less British than they were back then and ole Maggie T. ain't running the show. Interesting to see where this goes.

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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by greg~judy » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:39 pm

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GJJIM sez Falklands...
JHyre sez Falklands...
greg~judy sez Malvinas...

Any others care to vote :?
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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by Annie » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:33 pm

just like US and vietman....i said; irak and afganistan!!!!!!!

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Post by Ventisquero » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:55 pm

greg~judy wrote:Any others care to vote :?
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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by nwdiver » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:29 pm

Argentina has a smaller less effective military now than it had in 1982, nobody will sell them arms, they don’t have the cash to pay, it will come to naught, it’s Kirchner using the militaries tried and true method of getting the Argentine People minds off the debt default that is brewing. If they default again they will need the oil out there to have schools and roads.

Sad sad case, they agreed in the 1983 treaty to give up their claims, I guess that really doesn't count the way they say they will get their fiscal house in order then say ja ja fooled you again, this time I believe the IMF will tell them they have real countries to help out and you dig yourself out. If that happens watch the nationalization of foreign asset, I’m glad I didn’t buy anything in Argentina, I feel sorry for some friends that have lived through the devaluations and bank freezes and worked a building up businesses.
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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by Chuck J 3.0 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:38 pm

I think the Argie's have a lot better chance now. The political climate has changed quite a bit in England, I don't think the UK Govt. can count on patriotic chest-thumping crowds to support them in taking back the Falklands this time, if Argentina invades.

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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by Chuck J 3.0 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:39 pm

I think the Argie's have a lot better chance now politically. The political climate has changed quite a bit in England, I don't think the UK Govt. can count on patriotic chest-thumping crowds to support them in taking back the Falklands this time, if Argentina invades.

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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by cafecreme » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:16 pm

it’s Kirchner using the militaries tried and true method of getting the Argentine People minds off the debt default that is brewing.
Ditto for Britain? A distraction from Brown and his ballsups?

The armed forces are extremely stretched, though, in Iraq and Afganistan. And no-one wanted those wars.

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Post by KJS » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:24 pm

The Economist has an article on this too. Among other interesting tidbits, the author wrote that the Brits did not pursue exploratory drilling past one site in 1998 because the price of oil was too low to make it profitable venture to continue. Author is saying that now the higher price of oil has lured Desire Petroleum (the British company with the oh so pithy namesake) to bring back exploration... Yowzers.

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Re: Argentina - they didn't learn last time

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:32 pm

And don't forget Chile's role.

What about that "special" relationship between the UK and Chile?
Does today's Chile really want to side with the UK this time?
I think a friendly source of local oil might swing support either way but can Chile trust Argentina to sell it aboveboard according to contract UNLIKE the natural gas fiasco a couple years back?
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