Corona Virus!

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Re: Corona Virus!

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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:00 pm

couple of interesting points from this list of news bullets points

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/10/cor ... dates.html

over 1000 dead

china has launched an phone application that lets you know if you have had recent contact or been near someone that is or has been infected or suspected of being infected. which seems like a good idea, if it was not run by the Chinese government. which is more creepy than the virus on many levels.

the most eye catching, it is estimated for every know case of the virus that enters the U.S., 3 are entering undetected. that is in part based on the numbers from Singapore, that has a similar travel numbers but is a small dense country. easier to spot.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:15 pm

now this is sort of a click bait article from yahoo, estimates 1 to 18% infection rate.

what is more interesting is the consistency of the reaction to anyone in the comments that post anything mildly anti-chinese government related. I have never seen that before in a yahoo comment section that is so consistent in the tone of their responses.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by Donnybrook » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:34 am

Interesting visual explainer from South China Morning Post:
https://multimedia.scmp.com/infographic ... bV9TCxICAM

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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:09 pm

well, this bug finally has a name. covid-19

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1134756

and the Chinese government has their finger prints all over the selection process.

think i will stick with wuhan coronavirus, just because it is so politically incorrect.

FYI, I might be wrong, but I find it hard to believe that was the only coronvirus found in 2019. they are pretty common as I understand.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by mem » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:01 am

39 more infected on the Blair witch diamond princess cruise ship. It must be terrible on that ship for the quarantined

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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:58 am

it seems one of those infected was a quarantine officer, that was wearing masks, gloves, and otherwise taking basic precautions. prompting this expert to describe it as 'unforgiving' and an 'efficient spreader'.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN206019

so we have learned more about this virus from their screw-up, than from the Japanese government's data about what they have learned about this virus since the quarantine of the ship has started.

now it seems, strangely, they might let those that are most at risk leave the ship early. WTF?
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:12 am

o.k., so finally a japenese english language article with bit more info about what is going on, and it sounds like political shit show.

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2020 ... virus.html

they admit they do not have sufficient test kits, or at least they are not going to waist them on a bunch of foriegners by testing everyone.

they have only tested 439 people on board. 175 have tested positive. that is 39% infection rate, but again they are selecting for people already showing signs.

they are reporting that the onboard medical hotline is always busy, and there are insufficient doctors and nurses. In a population
that is 80% over 60 years old. there are 11 people over 90 years old.

That is a big old WTF?
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:16 am

As I said earlier, it will be the politicians that spread this sucker and tern it in to a real crisis.

If you look at the history of the Spanish flue, it was politics that conspired with the flue to spread it around the World. The flue by itself was not that deadly.

speaking of political b.s. so, seems china is trying to declare this over by April. Did they ask the virus for an opinion?
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:58 am

And in Chile, masks are supposedly out of stock.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:14 am

you know, 30 or 60 days in to this, I might cut the powers that be a bit of slack in terms of figuring out the nature of this bug. It takes time to collect data, etc.

especially with the fuzzy info coming out of china muddying the waters. took me a whole year to stop my chinese students at the university to stop plagiarizing other people's research in their papers. so I get that angle. copyright in china means right to copy.

but now, I am starting to question even the western government's and media's total lack of information. we are going on 30 days, and really no one is publishing anything that makes any consistent, logical sense in terms of descriptions of this virus. Even formally "trust worthy" medical journal sources seem to be publishing and then retracting papers. what is being published, is so full of holes, or lacking in detail, that I question why it was even published in the first place.

Like everything I look at, seems to have a clear lack of scientific rigor in it. They all read like a bunch of research papers written by university freshmen.

If I was grading them in a for a class, the margins would be filled with questions. I use to tell my students in writing their research papers, " if you don't know the answer say it" Perhaps someone else can answer the question, or continue the work, to fill in the blank. alert the reader to the problems and questions with your work, before they do. It is matter of basic intellectual honesty.

I am not seeing that in what is being published, and at this point there should be a whole lot of info being published by both academic journals, but also mainstream media. at least a lot of explanations about why we don't know, what we don't know.
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Re: Corona Virus!

Post by admin » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:16 am

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:58 am
And in Chile, masks are supposedly out of stock.
a bullshit.

I just walked through a sodimac the other day with a shelves full every sort of mask you could imagine. from the hyper expensive, 3M, hanta virus rated respirators down to those stupid little surgical masks.
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