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Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:55 pm
by mem
admin wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:04 pm
Well, there is another thing getting shutdown. U.S. government web sites are going down because they can not renew their TLS certificates.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/governmen ... -are-down/

In addition to most cyber security staff being sent home, I seen an article that something like 5,000 FBI agents and support staff are also sitting at home, the rest are working without pay.

I wonder how long Trump's secret service detail is going to hesitate to take a bullet for the wanker that did not sign their pay check. It will only take an agent 0.05 seconds extra to resolve this boarder wall issue permanently.

Of course the others not being paid at the airports are the people at the FAA, the air traffic controllers, etc. People that acutely do something important for a living.

Not sure I would want to be anywhere near that airspace right now, on the ground or above it.
Nah he is probably still paying them out of his own pocket and making them feel special.

I think it makes no sense to have positions affected by the "shutdown" but then expect them to work without pay. Either put them on the side where they still get paid during a shutdown or dont and accept them not working. Even with a shutdown more than half of the "gubmint" is still working and getting paid.
Still Im glad they are getting it stuck to em, for all the times I opted out of the backscatter and they punished me by making me wait a zillion years for a pat down since I wasn't being a good lil radiated sheeple!

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:08 pm
by AnciaVagar
admin wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:04 pm
I wonder how long Trump's secret service detail is going to hesitate to take a bullet for the wanker that did not sign their pay check.
According to the constitution (I know, I know) Congress pays the bills. Let's just forget about the 535 representatives and senators not doing their jobs. I bet they are still getting paid.

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:01 am
by admin
yea, never mind that little ammendment that did something crazy like outlawing slavery.

i don't know why anyone is suprised. Trump has a long history of stiffing workers for their pay.

Trump bankruptsy number 5 (think he has 4 priors) is going to be the best bankruptsy ever.

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:11 pm
by AnciaVagar
I don't watch the news so maybe someone can tell me whether the House of Representatives has passed a spending bill that's pending in the Senate, or waiting for signature.

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:56 pm
by admin
yea there are spending bills in the senate, that the republicans refuse to bring to vote. including one they already passed, the house approved, and sent baxk.

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:00 am
by AnciaVagar
Not sure what sent back means. According to congress.gov there has not been a veto since 2016 by Obama.

Congressional Republicans don't have a strong record of doing what Trump wants. Why is all of Congress on vacation?

I have to admit that I worry more about what BigGov does than what it does not.

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:24 am
by admin
reconcilliation of a senate bill i believe. the vote they are refusing to have though is, a vote about voting.

yea no one seems to have noticed the thousands of "procedural rules" that now exit that negate the constitution. once upon a time, a member of congress had one vote per seat. now they only get to vote if they vote the right way, due to the "rules"; and no one knows what they are voting on, or who inserted it in to the bill.

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:11 am
by admin
so here is also a knock-on effect of the shutdown that does not get covered much in the media: contractors.

estimates are an additional 4.1 million u.s. gov contractors are not getting paid, and they typicaly don't get compensated for the shutdown. so that is 4.9 million people mas o menos not being paid.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/09/shutdow ... check.html

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:04 pm
by eeuunikkeiexpat
An article of interest for those with an open mind:

Trump's shutdown trap?
January 15, 2019
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... T4.twitter

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:11 pm
by HybridAmbassador
Read in the news that DOJ said to those not getting paid, go to unemployment office and collect on the insurance. After Trumpster re-opens the govnmnt and receiving its due salaries then can return paid unemployment back to the treasury ... Go figure that out ?

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:43 pm
by admin
eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:04 pm
An article of interest for those with an open mind:

Trump's shutdown trap?
January 15, 2019
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... T4.twitter
let's see if i can get this formula right.

number of workers laid-off × $2,000,00 average wrongful termination lawsuit = 100,000,000,0000,00000000000000000000 deficit (sorry the u.s. gov can not afford anymore comas).

that 80% is there because it was too expensive to eliminate them in the first place.

Re: Travel to the u.s. gets safer, TSA calls in sick over shutdown

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:10 am
by bert.douglas
I think that Trump might really use this opportunity to get rid of half the federal workforce. He is a disruptor. And that is what the people who elected him want. Real disruption. No more status quo.

Get your popcorn ready. This is going to be good.

As for wrongful termination lawsuits, not a worry. When it comes to big money, congress decides. The courts can not order congress to appropriate money. The government is, by default, immune from lawsuits. The only reason that the government can be sued at all, is because congress passed a law to allow it, under certain controlled circumstances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign ... n_immunity