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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:28 am

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Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:39 pm
uhhhm, the photo you posted appears to be heavily doctored, and not even well doctored at that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgQEZqq3no
Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/worl ... video.html
So Bolton lied twice when he said Venezuelans burnt trucks carrying medical supplies. Ditto for pretty boy Guadó. Also Pompeo, Pence and Rubio. And the original footage was doctored on the orders of the president of Columbia, and not even well doctored at that.

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:41 pm

this is a worthy read about life without power in Venezuela:

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... alked-out/
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:44 pm

at46 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:28 am
admin wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:39 pm
uhhhm, the photo you posted appears to be heavily doctored, and not even well doctored at that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgQEZqq3no
Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/worl ... video.html
So Bolton lied twice when he said Venezuelans burnt trucks carrying medical supplies. Ditto for pretty boy Guadó. Also Pompeo, Pence and Rubio. And the original footage was doctored on the orders of the president of Columbia, and not even well doctored at that.
i am still in the 'so what?' camp.

maduro is doing a bang up job? proves everything is really great on the otherside of the boarder? no need for aid in Venezuela?

that would change what exactly?
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by 41southchile » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:43 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:41 pm
this is a worthy read about life without power in Venezuela:

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... alked-out/
4th day with no power, that's what happens when you loose all your technicians, electricians, etc and don't do any maintenance for so many years I guess. Reports coming in at lunchtime that the grid is screwed in many places, electrical faults and fires and multiple substations due to overloading and collapse of other lines it's having a domino effect. Mad Uro says it's the Yankees and a cyber attack, one way or another this is going to get a lot lot worse quickly I imagine.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:25 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:44 pm
at46 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:28 am
admin wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:39 pm
uhhhm, the photo you posted appears to be heavily doctored, and not even well doctored at that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgQEZqq3no
Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/worl ... video.html
So Bolton lied twice when he said Venezuelans burnt trucks carrying medical supplies. Ditto for pretty boy Guadó. Also Pompeo, Pence and Rubio. And the original footage was doctored on the orders of the president of Columbia, and not even well doctored at that.
i am still in the 'so what?' camp.

maduro is doing a bang up job? proves everything is really great on the otherside of the boarder? no need for aid in Venezuela?

that would change what exactly?
You're turning it into an ideological argument, I'm just pointing out the lies, humming to myself Sting's "All those born under an angry star"...

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by bert.douglas » Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:32 pm

41southchile wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:43 pm
admin wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:41 pm
this is a worthy read about life without power in Venezuela:

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... alked-out/
4th day with no power, that's what happens when you loose all your technicians, electricians, etc and don't do any maintenance for so many years I guess. Reports coming in at lunchtime that the grid is screwed in many places, electrical faults and fires and multiple substations due to overloading and collapse of other lines it's having a domino effect. Mad Uro says it's the Yankees and a cyber attack, one way or another this is going to get a lot lot worse quickly I imagine.
Reminds me of scenes from "Atlas Shrugged".

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by HybridAmbassador » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:47 pm

I'm intrigued as to, how much does Maduro has right now in his coffin? He sold Vz's gold reserve what twice now? When a country or the capital goes without power for 4th days, it means very bad sign for Maduro's gvnmnt, they are broke. I'm pretty sure that Putin is inviting him to bail the heck out of Vz and come over to Russia. In the past Putin offered Hussein ( Irak ) and Khadafy ( Libya) to leave respective countries but those Honchos negated Putin's invitation and both got Kaput! So when will be the Fin to Maduro's regime, a month, 6 months, a year, anyone in the know?
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:05 pm

at46 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:25 pm
admin wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:44 pm
at46 wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:28 am
admin wrote:
Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:39 pm
uhhhm, the photo you posted appears to be heavily doctored, and not even well doctored at that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgQEZqq3no
Footage Contradicts U.S. Claim That Nicolás Maduro Burned Aid Convoy https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/worl ... video.html
So Bolton lied twice when he said Venezuelans burnt trucks carrying medical supplies. Ditto for pretty boy Guadó. Also Pompeo, Pence and Rubio. And the original footage was doctored on the orders of the president of Columbia, and not even well doctored at that.
i am still in the 'so what?' camp.

maduro is doing a bang up job? proves everything is really great on the otherside of the boarder? no need for aid in Venezuela?

that would change what exactly?
You're turning it into an ideological argument, I'm just pointing out the lies, humming to myself Sting's "All those born under an angry star"...
It is a war. It is all lies. Just because cruise missiles are not flying (yet), does not make it suddenly an honest fight.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:15 pm

here is a breakdown of what is wrong with the electric grid:
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... zuela-faq/

and an article one why it is staying down:
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... power-faq/

Although I seen an interesting article the other day from someone that had done a cyber-warfare assessment on Venezuela some years ago (can not find it now), and said it would happen just like this (e.g. main lines, peak hours of traffic, dusk, etc); but, he still concluded the more likely culprit was simply a badly maintained power system, as the simply poor and outdated state of the power infrastructure made a coordinated cyber attack difficult to pull off with any certainty. Hard to hack a typewriter sort of cyber security.

Keep that in mind Chile, when you are debating "smart" meters.

The one starting to get some attention in the financial press is the oil industry. No electricity, no oil. No oil, no Maduro (or anything else).
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:26 pm

The other one that was in the financial news recently was that something like 10 oil tankers owned by Venezuela, were being abandoned by their crews around the world. They were being operated by a European contractor, that of course had not been paid. Some of the ships were already under seizure in various ports by creditors.

The problem, as I understand it is, the Venezuelan government does not have qualified crews or captains capable of retrieving the ships.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by 41southchile » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:27 pm

admin wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:15 pm


Although I seen an interesting article the other day from someone that had done a cyber-warfare assessment on Venezuela some years ago (can not find it now), and said it would happen just like this (e.g. main lines, peak hours of traffic, dusk, etc); but, he still concluded the more likely culprit was simply a badly maintained power system, as the simply poor and outdated state of the power infrastructure made a coordinated cyber attack difficult to pull off with any certainty. Hard to hack a typewriter sort of cyber security.

Keep that in mind Chile, when you are debating "smart" meters.

The one starting to get some attention in the financial press is the oil industry. No electricity, no oil. No oil, no Maduro (or anything else).
Yeah I watched a report once , about 19 years ago probably, about India never had to worry about the Y2K bug for their thousands of kms of railway lines and signal systems etc, nothing was computerized and they were still using pretty much what the English had installed.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:29 pm

my all time favorite hack, for simplicity and elegance, was done in front of a congressional committee about election machine security.

a "hacker" was asked how he would "hack" an election to change the results. in the room were several election machines on display, and he offered to demonstrate. he got up from the table and walked over to the machine and simply unplugged it.

in IT security, and often everything else, simplicity is often security.

systems analysis and design, often comes down to what can break? what can go wrong?

guess they did not have Maduro in mind when they designed the eletric grid.
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