Venezuela crisis

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:24 pm

but, keep in mind the u.s. has a horrible record on the follow through with such situations.

The u.s. probably has not had a good reconstruction project since post-wwll japan and europe.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:35 pm

cuba says the u.s. is positioning marines and special forces in the region.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-vene ... SKCN1Q31RU


kimd of statimg the obvious. i would be more suprised if they were not.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:51 pm

well, here is just one of the strangest twists yet.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... a-s-border

richard branson claims he is going to hold a live aid concert on the colombian side of the boarder on the 22nd, which one day before guiado claims aid will start arriving and says he is doing it at the request of guiado.

a concert in the middle of a war zone, what could go wrong?

that is not exactly the safest neighborhood on a good day. i have never been to that part of colombia, but i sure have spent a lot of time around dodgy latin american boarder crossings.

even when there is no pending conflict or military buildup, they tend to be pretty dangerous places.

Let's see, just based on some of the more interesting boarder crossings in latin america i have been to, typical inventory at such a boarder in latin america:

you got your standard issue smugglers of all sorts.
a mountain of poor and desperate people going all diffrent directions, for all sorts of reasons. no one is realy sure who they are, sometimes not even the people themselves.
lots of drug addicts hanging around.
lots of drug deallers to keep the addicts fed
lots of drunks
some realy ugly prostitutes
lots of drug smugglers.
a bunch of shady corrupt goverment officials.
a bunch of shady guys that help you pay off the shady corrupt goverment officials.
a bunch of really bored, under paid, and under trained teenagers pretending to be soliders with big automatic weapons.
typicaly at least one or two diffrent "rebel groups" (depends on the war of the day, real or imagined)
misslanious gangs and mafia groups

did i miss anything?

yea that sound like a good setting for woodstock. just missing the brown acid; but don't worry. i am sure one of the the shady drug dealers will hook them up.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:55 pm

dang forgot one.

there is always at least one clueless gringo backpacker that speaks shit for spanish, and thinks the whole thing is all very cool and exciting.

that was me back in the day.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by AnciaVagar » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:29 pm

at46 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:02 pm
...'humanitarian aid' for Venezuela. In my humble opinion, it is anything but, given how the US has been choking Venezuela for years.
"For years" (decades) the US has allowed the free flow of diluent and dollars to PDVSA -- 99% of Vz's hard currency income. Venezuela could have sold their oil and bought diluent anywhere in the world.

A few days ago the US government cut off some PDVSA money to Maduro only when they could begin paying it to a legitimate alternative. But it's easy to get confused as you watched the Chavistas starve El Pueblo, you heard them say that the Empire was actually doing it.

Your opinion may be humble, but your agenda is extreme.

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by HybridAmbassador » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:31 pm

So what will China and Russia going to do with already given Billions to Vz, if Maduro goes down. Guaido not able to re-pay or flatly denying to pay debt taken in Maduro regime. China says it need to get those thick crude oil from Vz to use as paving for highways construction and roads.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:54 pm

admin wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:51 pm
well, here is just one of the strangest twists yet.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... a-s-border

richard branson claims he is going to hold a live aid concert on the colombian side of the boarder on the 22nd, which one day before guiado claims aid will start arriving and says he is doing it at the request of guiado.
Brits to the rescue. Probably at the request of BP CEO Dudley though, after he rushed to meet with Putin in Moscow a week ago.

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:21 pm

well first reported shooting by maduro's troops of people trying to get aid through on the brazilian boarder.

meanwhile the aid concert in colombia is kicking off, with a reported 400,000 people sandwiched between a whole lot of guns.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:36 pm

just had a chat with an old friend that lives in Bogota. she described the whole thing as very "passive agressive".

In latin america, that has a very ominous and loaded cultural meaning, that i don't think i am even able to explain or translate it. you sort have had to been around the neighborhood a while. let me think about it a bit, and perhaps i can unpack that in to easier to understand form.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by HybridAmbassador » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:19 pm

I was just yesterday watching one of news channel and saw a headline stating, Maduro orders its military to blockade a route to prevent Guido escaping Venezuela! What is going on, thought Maduro be a happy camper if Guaido out of Venezuela ?

More news from Aljazeera. https://www.ALJAZEERA IS BANNED/news/2019/02/ ... 07321.html
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by Britkid » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:12 pm

admin wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:10 pm
practice listening to Venezuelan accents, because there is no way that crisis gets better before it gets worse.
This quote from December, page 1, has been accurate so far. Things have got worse. But how about now? Have we reached the bottom? If we don't go to war from here, we could be nearing the bottom. All it needs is the military to call for elections and imply Maduro is done if he doesn't accept, and things can get better...right? maybe?

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:50 pm

i think this just the end of the beginning, as Churchill might of described it.
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