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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:27 pm

let me put it this way.

My guestimate is that Argentina has at least 1 trillion dollar deficit in infrastructure spending after fernandez and friends ripped off the country for nearly 20 years. 360 billion of that one study pegged in just fixing the roads they have, never mind hospitals, schools, pensions, etc.

How much do you think Venezuela needs to fix its infrastructure after 20 years of chavez and friends?

My guess, at least 10 times that.

can you see the world lending 10 trillion dollars to venezuela, say over the next ten years, when they are all but out of the oil business?

There is no other industry to speak of in Venezuela. Argentina is struggling, and by comparison they have a pretty diversified economy to work with.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:41 pm

which, as seems to be always the case in these cases, venezuela is left with "21st century capitalist-socialism"; or, "the bond vulture default game".

they borrow say 200 or 300 billion, debt get's unsustaniable as interest rates rise, venezuela defaults, restructures, and starts all over again. little by little though, assuming the new goverment is not too corrupt, they get their 10 trillion dollars to spend on the infrastructure.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by HybridAmbassador » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:41 pm

Now Juan Guaido rumours that received illegal funds and being investigated, LoL the saga continues...
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:49 pm

ahh, yea maduro moved to block his accounts in venezuela like last week. old news.

Guess that us only fair. guido took maduro's accounts outside the country.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by fraggle092 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:14 am

Yesterday, Venezuelan vice-president Delcy Rodríguez warned that the humanitarian food aid being stockpiled in Colombia was poisoned and causes cancer.

https://www.elcomercio.com/actualidad/d ... ancer.html

And today, the Italian press filtered the Pope´s response to Maduro´s incessant demands for discussions and mediation which the Vatican apparently believes are nothing more than stalling tactics.

https://www.latercera.com/mundo/noticia ... as/526798/

This rotten regime is still supported by the Chilean Communist and Socialist parties btw.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by AnciaVagar » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:48 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:14 am
Yesterday, Venezuelan vice-president Delcy Rodríguez warned that the humanitarian food aid being stockpiled in Colombia was poisoned and causes cancer.

https://www.elcomercio.com/actualidad/d ... ancer.html
From the Caracas Chronicles:
" 'This aid is contaminated and poisoned, it is carcinogenic, as has been shown by various scientific studies,' said Delcy Rodríguez, without offering evidence." -- El Comercio
"Since marxists consistently accuse others of the left's own crimes, now we know what's in the CLAP bags."

LOL!

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:20 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:14 am
Yesterday, Venezuelan vice-president Delcy Rodríguez warned that the humanitarian food aid being stockpiled in Colombia was poisoned and causes cancer.

https://www.elcomercio.com/actualidad/d ... ancer.html

And today, the Italian press filtered the Pope´s response to Maduro´s incessant demands for discussions and mediation which the Vatican apparently believes are nothing more than stalling tactics.

https://www.latercera.com/mundo/noticia ... as/526798/

This rotten regime is still supported by the Chilean Communist and Socialist parties btw.
The Venezuelan pretty boy was elected under the same system as Maduro. To say that one is rotten and the other smells good is a bit of a stretch, to say the least :)

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by AnciaVagar » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:38 pm

at46 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:20 pm
The Venezuelan pretty boy was elected under the same system as Maduro. To say that one is rotten and the other smells good is a bit of a stretch, to say the least :)
Really? You say Maduro was elected by the Asamblea Nacional under constitutional articles 233, 331, 333, and 350?

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by fraggle092 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:46 pm

at46 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:20 pm

The Venezuelan pretty boy was elected under the same system as Maduro. To say that one is rotten and the other smells good is a bit of a stretch, to say the least :)
I said that the Maduro government is rotten, nothing more.
Don't invent stuff, try reading what you are quoting first.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:02 pm

fraggle092 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:46 pm
at46 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:20 pm

The Venezuelan pretty boy was elected under the same system as Maduro. To say that one is rotten and the other smells good is a bit of a stretch, to say the least :)
I said that the Maduro government is rotten, nothing more.
Don't invent stuff, try reading what you are quoting first.
I also think you should use quotation marks when writing 'humanitarian aid' for Venezuela. In my humble opinion, it is anything but, given how the US has been choking Venezuela for years.

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by fraggle092 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:14 pm

at46 wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:02 pm
I also think you should use quotation marks when writing 'humanitarian aid' for Venezuela. In my humble opinion, it is anything but, given how the US has been choking Venezuela for years.
Don't presume to tell me how to write. Its like putting words into my mouth and I don't like it.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:21 pm

here is an interesting interview with a sort of outsude insider, former ambassador to Venezuela under bush and obama that gives pretty high marks for trumps handling of things so far:

https://amp.dw.com/en/trumps-venezuela- ... a-47486988
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