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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:21 pm

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:19 am
I read that they were ordered to leave by Maduro because of the supposed US cyber-warfare attack against their electrical grid.
Yea, I think that was a face saving move on the part of Maduro, after the U.S. announced they were polling out the diplomats.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by AnciaVagar » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:57 pm

mem wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:39 am
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At this point I almost dont care who cleans up the mess in VZ. Just want it cleaned up. It's been bad for years and now it just went next level. There have to be options other than the US playing world police.
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Unfortunately, los Venezolanos also don't care who created the mess -- aided by their philosophy and culture, so avoiding a repeat will be difficult.

I'm hearing from oil patch insiders (both operations and finance) that Vz ultra heavy production is un-salvageable. They'll have to start over and considering oil prices and production costs, the exorbitant investment will not come anytime soon.

And we know from in-country reports over several years that agriculture, health care, electricity, water and every other aspect of infrastructure suffer similar deterioration. (Not sure how Trump drove Vz farmers off their lands over the past 10+ years, but you know he must have done it.)

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by HybridAmbassador » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:08 pm

mem wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:39 am
Apparently generator based Steak Houses are booming in VZ. However when it says "they serve a certain clientele"...yup we know exactly what that means!

The polarization of the rich and poor is just accelerating

https://www.bloombergquint.com/markets/ ... -than-ever

At this point I almost dont care who cleans up the mess in VZ. Just want it cleaned up. It's been bad for years and now it just went next level. There have to be options other than the US playing world police.

How about Columbia annexes the western part, Bolivia get a narrow contiguous strip to the coast of VZ and Brazil gets the eastern part. Then Columbia and Brazil take shares of the oil fields. Bolivia gets ocean access
What could possibly go wrong? ; )
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:01 pm

so here is an update on the state of the health care crisis inside Venezuela after so many days without power:

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... th-system/
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:23 pm

and here for all you preppers:

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... -blackout/

every time i read these stories i think back to the hours and days after the 2010 earthquake, but it became pretty apparent fast we were not that bad off (other than not knowing how the rest of the country was); but imagine being in that situation, in a coumtry that was already in an massively degraded state of infrastructure like Venezuela.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by FrankPintor » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:15 am

admin wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:23 pm
and here for all you preppers:

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... -blackout/

every time i read these stories i think back to the hours and days after the 2010 earthquake, but it became pretty apparent fast we were not that bad off (other than not knowing how the rest of the country was); but imagine being in that situation, in a coumtry that was already in an massively degraded state of infrastructure like Venezuela.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:05 pm

yea for disaster prepping i always start with the same basics i used when packing for an extended back-packing or canoe trip. multi-fuel stove, sleeping bags, tent, knife, water filters, high-carb low weight long lasting foods, boots, rain / winter gear, etc.

after that i build up to the "luxury" items like generators, water tanks, 4x4, a rural property in southern chile, a good bottle of wine, candle to go with bottle of wine.

the last two are not really "luxury" survival items; they are essential to convincing my wife to make use of the first list of basic survival items. :lol:
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by admin » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:16 pm

seriously though there are a lot of worthy lessons for disaster prepping in those articles. like having multiple currencies, communication, etc.

but, there is one essential survival item that is most important, although not so obvious in those articles: friends.

friends and family help solve problems in an emergency, more than they cause problems. it was proved out durring the 2010 earthquake, in those articles, and is something worth sourcing well in advance. even better if you can talk to your friends and family about it, long before they are needed.
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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:35 pm

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Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:05 pm
the last two are not really "luxury" survival items; they are essential to convincing my wife to make use of the first list of basic survival items. :lol:
Just buy a bag of Swarovski crystals on Aliexpress and glue them to everything. Never fails... :lol:

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:14 am

nwdiver wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:59 am
41southchile wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:43 pm
admin wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:41 pm
this is a worthy read about life without power in Venezuela:

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2019/ ... alked-out/
4th day with no power, that's what happens when you loose all your technicians, electricians, etc and don't do any maintenance for so many years I guess. Reports coming in at lunchtime that the grid is screwed in many places, electrical faults and fires and multiple substations due to overloading and collapse of other lines it's having a domino effect. Mad Uro says it's the Yankees and a cyber attack, one way or another this is going to get a lot lot worse quickly I imagine.
It can't be a cyber attack, the grid is not that advanced......
Here's a good read of the upgrades performed on that power station in 2005-2007 by ABB, one of the biggest global companies in this field. Pretty advanced, if you ask me. https://library.e.abb.com/public/f27f76 ... G72dpi.pdf

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by AnciaVagar » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:00 pm

at46 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:14 am
Here's a good read of the upgrades performed on that power station in 2005-2007 by ABB, one of the biggest global companies in this field. Pretty advanced, if you ask me. https://library.e.abb.com/public/f27f76 ... G72dpi.pdf
You write about the work in the past tense, but your source writes in the future tense. One must wonder if the work was ever completed.

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Re: Venezuela crisis

Post by at46 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:36 pm

AnciaVagar wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:00 pm
at46 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:14 am
Here's a good read of the upgrades performed on that power station in 2005-2007 by ABB, one of the biggest global companies in this field. Pretty advanced, if you ask me. https://library.e.abb.com/public/f27f76 ... G72dpi.pdf
You write about the work in the past tense, but your source writes in the future tense. One must wonder if the work was ever completed.
Well, this article confirms that some of the control systems mentioned in the pdf were bought from and installed by ABB Canada (past tense, i.e. project completed). The article also says in the future they'll migrate to China/Russia technology, and I don't blame them given that all Western technology is a trojan horse. http://vtv.gob.ve/sistema-guri-comprada-canada/

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