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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by admin » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:12 am

Who won the chile forum 'first articles of impeachment introduced ' pool?


Because We have a winner.


First impeachment charges introduced to congress.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essenti ... story.html

Probably wont go anywhere, but probably not the last.
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by seawolf180 » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:22 pm

admin wrote:Who won the chile forum 'first articles of impeachment introduced ' pool?


Because We have a winner.


First impeachment charges introduced to congress.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essenti ... story.html

Probably wont go anywhere, but probably not the last.
Based as it is on resentment, and no statute, or anything serious, other than obstruction, and overthrowing a legitimate leadership(whatever we may think of it)....could as easily justify impeaching the whole damn government. Both crap parties.
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by cali_chile48 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:00 pm

Let's see...what have we learned in the past week from Pig-of-a-Man?

1) He loves to be flattered, which the French did with lots of pomp-and-circumstance. This makes him more pliable. The Saudis knew this, and got their way with him. The French have learned, too, that if you want something from POTUS, roll out the red carpet. Morality and policy are entirely secondary to ego-stroking.

2) His comment that "lots of people" would have taken the meeting with a hostile foreign government representative to get information on a a political opponent sets a new and LOWER bar for everyone involved in the 2016 campaign, and presumably the same applies to the 2020 campaign (which POTUS entered months ago so that he could use campaign donations to pay for campaign events at sites owned by the candidate.)

3) He would rather see the health care system fail, than admit defeat on the repeal and replace of the Affordable Care Act. He cares about gaining power, maintaining power and increasing power so that he can enrich himself. He cares NOTHING for the struggles of a regular working guy trying to keep his family healthy.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by Andres » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:52 pm

So what?
That list can include MANY politicians.
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by nwdiver » Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:38 pm

So the White House released the negotiating terms of "their" new NAFTA agreement, including the US want access to Canadain government spending on all products and services, but "America First" will be invoked so Canada will have no access to US government spending..........who writes this stuff?
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by frozen-north » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:00 am

cali_chile48 wrote:

Let's see...what have we learned in the past week from Pig-of-a-Man?

2) His comment that "lots of people" would have taken the meeting with a hostile foreign government representative to get information on a a political opponent sets a new and LOWER bar for everyone involved in the 2016 campaign,

3) ...He cares about gaining power, maintaining power and increasing power so that he can enrich himself. He cares NOTHING for the struggles of a regular working guy trying to keep his family healthy.
It seems that the meeting 'to get information on a a political opponent' will be overshadowed by the money side of the relations between the current US government and Russia.
Exxon fined over Tillerson-era disregard for US' Russia sanctions

The US Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) - which administers and enforces economic and trade sanctions - said in a statement on Thursday that Exxon had caused "significant harm" to the US' Russian sanctions program by engaging in transactions with a Russian government official.

Exxon violated sanctions - it said - when it signed contracts in May 2014 with Russian oil magnate Igor Sechin, chairman of the government-owned energy giant Rosneft.

http://www.dw.com/en/exxon-fined-over-t ... a-39778660
Germany's Deutsche Bank may have to provide information to the special counsel in the FBI's Russia inquiry, Robert Mueller. Donald Trump said Mueller would cross a line if he expanded the probe to his business ties.

Mueller is reportedly investigating purchases by Russian buyers of Trump properties, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow, a SoHo (New York) development involving Russian associates and Trump's 2008 sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch, Bloomberg reported.

DB also has strong ties to Russia. It signed a "cooperation agreement" with Vnesheconombank, a Russian state-owned bank and a target of US economic sanctions, the New York Times reported.

Trump's advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner met Vnesheconombank's chief executive, Sergei Gorkov last December.

http://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-bank-expe ... a-39778652

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by cali_chile48 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:51 pm

I have the feeling that this administration is about to implode. I don't think that the principal actors had any idea how intense the scrutiny is for sitting presidents and their staff. They are clearly in WAAAAAY over their heads.

The pressure from congressional hearings, the special counsel and the press, and the frustration with the impasse over repeal-and-replace and the resulting in-fighting that is on-going will soon cause a major breach. Pumpkinhead Jr, Manafort and Kushner are scheduled to testify next week and Mueller has already announced he is looking into the president's finances ("looking into" is a euphemism....it really means a thorough investigation).

The president has indicated that family finances were off limits as far as he is concerned, and he has publicly denounced the head of the Department of Justice for allowing "the Russia thing" to advance. The head of the ethics committee has resigned, and so has one of the lawyers in charge of spinning the White House view of the world. Some news outlets are reporting that POTUS has been asking about the limits of the power of the presidential pardon, and speculation about trying to influence or fire the special prosecutor continues to swirl about.

I suppose that one the key questions is how long will Senate and House Republicans stand by POTUS. They must certainly be able to see that POTUS is an inept chief of the executive branch of government, and with slim majorities, they can't advance their retro agenda. There will come a time, and it may not be too far in the future, when the rat-passengers on the garbage barge of this adminstration start to jump ship to save their own political futures.

Public opinion is already low, and will sink even further if POTUS issues pardons or tries to otherwise obstruct the investigations into the ties between Russian banks and government and the Trump campaign/family/corporation. Is anyone gonna cry for Pumpkinhead when this all breaks open? Only the people still hypnotized by Breitbart and Fox.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by nwdiver » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:08 pm

I don't get it, did nobody explain to Trump the separation of himself and any of his family that have anything to do with governance and business dealing, as with many things someone probably did and heard "Your Fired".......
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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by cali_chile48 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:23 pm

He is unorthodox in many ways, and he was elected partly because he was not going to follow the norms in DC that have locked up the system and made so many people cynical about government. His unorthodox behavior won him the POTUS 45. He got there by being a bully and throwing insults. That's who he is.

He was gonna be the guy who cleaned house. Instead, he is the guy who throws shit everywhere. He demonstrates gross ignorance and disdain for law enforcement, Congress, the judicial system, ethical norms, transparency in government, health policy etc., and yet he seems genuinely surprised when people react negatively. It is not a sustainable situation.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by frozen-north » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:27 pm


The kind of proposition that he (Trump) made was that he would bring his business experience to the White House. And people thought that meant that he would use it on behalf of the country.

http://www.dw.com/en/president-donald-t ... a-39762714

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by cali_chile48 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:19 pm

That argument always fails, because the objectives of government and the objectives of business are not closely aligned. In fact they are antithetical at times.

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Re: The Trump Administration

Post by HybridAmbassador » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:14 pm

US reigning president, can he enforce the "president's pardon" on himself?
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