Useless country ratings strike again

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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by john » Thu Sep 01, 2016 8:18 pm

lost gringo wrote:
admin wrote: Chile might get a major boost, just for the lack of Zika.
This map is from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention(CDC)

The area marked in orange are the countries with active Zika virus.

[img]zika%20south%20america.jpg[/img]
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by Andres » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:08 pm

lost gringo wrote:
admin wrote: Chile might get a major boost, just for the lack of Zika.
This map is from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention(CDC)

The area marked in orange are the countries with active Zika virus.

[img]zika%20south%20america.jpg[/img]
There is a major flaw in the map . . . which is primarily caused by the very closed-minded, meme-oriented viewpoint that the lines drawn on a map by the thugs-in-power (i.e. governments) are the only way we can view the world.

It diminishes the view that there is any validity in CDC (or any government data).
There is no way that there is just as much likelihood of finding the zika virus in Alaska as there is in Florida.

Nor is it just as likely that Cuzco would have the virus as Iquitos.

The map is therefore unreliable, and this is ignored and useless.
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by Andres » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:09 pm

john wrote:But I thought Zika was a hoax. :wink:
Not the virus, its supposed impact (dumbshit).
And therefore the supposed justification for more government control.

As usual, you only see what you want to see, and only hear what you want to hear, providing it already complies with your preconceived notions.
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by lost gringo » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:15 pm

Andres wrote:
lost gringo wrote:
admin wrote: Chile might get a major boost, just for the lack of Zika.
This map is from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention(CDC)

The area marked in orange are the countries with active Zika virus.

[img]zika%20south%20america.jpg[/img]
There is a major flaw in the map . . . which is primarily caused by the very closed-minded, meme-oriented viewpoint that the lines drawn on a map by the thugs-in-power (i.e. governments) are the only way we can view the world.

It diminishes the view that there is any validity in CDC (or any government data).
There is no way that there is just as much likelihood of finding the zika virus in Alaska as there is in Florida.

Nor is it just as likely that Cuzco would have the virus as Iquitos.

The map is therefore unreliable, and this is ignored and useless.
Thanks for pointing that out. I was under the impression the CDC was legit. I thought the map referred to where there is current active Zika, not where it is likely to be found.
http://www.cdc.gov/zika/geo/active-countries.html/
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by frozen-north » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:06 pm

lost gringo wrote:
I thought the map referred to where there is current active Zika, not where it is likely to be found.
I think Andres has a very good point. Should it be shown in a political map? ('meme-oriented viewpoint that the lines drawn on a map by the thugs-in-power are the only way we can view the world.' ) The map used seem to indicate that the whole country is affected. How many cases have been found in the Argentinian Patagonia?

How is Zika, the virus, 'active'?

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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by lost gringo » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:29 pm

frozen-north wrote:
lost gringo wrote:
I thought the map referred to where there is current active Zika, not where it is likely to be found.
I think Andres has a very good point. Should it be shown in a political map? ('meme-oriented viewpoint that the lines drawn on a map by the thugs-in-power are the only way we can view the world.' ) The map used seem to indicate that the whole country is affected. How many cases have been found in the Argentinian Patagonia?

How is Zika, the virus, 'active'?
Shouldn't it be obvious that the map emphasizes only entire countries where Zika is currently active and is not meant to show individual areas within those countries where it locally active? Or am I missing something, discounting the "'meme-oriented viewpoint that the lines drawn on a map by the thugs-in-power" are the only way we can view the world" argument with which I happen to agree with in most cases.
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by lost gringo » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:55 pm

lost gringo wrote:
eeuunikkeiexpat wrote: Keeps the riffraff (especially the shit-for-brains US baby boomer types) away.
Might be a bit late for that as that ship has sailed.:)
Wouldn't it be more interesting to discuss how to keep the riffraff out rather than debate the accuracy of a map.

Chile could build a wall and make the countries with whom we share a border pay for it. :)
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by frozen-north » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:55 am

lost gringo wrote:
Shouldn't it be obvious that the map emphasizes only entire countries where Zika is currently active and is not meant to show individual areas within those countries where it locally active?

Wouldn't it be more interesting to discuss how to keep the riffraff out rather than debate the accuracy of a map.
I am not discussing the accuracy of a map, but the question is whether that is the best way to represent the information. A similar map appears when one looks at the CDC pages for the distribution of chikungunya:
Countries and territories where chikungunya cases have been reported
https://www.cdc.gov/chikungunya/geo/index.html
A very different one is used for malaria:

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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by admin » Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:26 am

lost gringo wrote:
lost gringo wrote:
eeuunikkeiexpat wrote: Keeps the riffraff (especially the shit-for-brains US baby boomer types) away.
Might be a bit late for that as that ship has sailed.:)
Wouldn't it be more interesting to discuss how to keep the riffraff out rather than debate the accuracy of a map.

Chile could build a wall and make the countries with whom we share a border pay for it. :)
It's called the Andes. We fill it in with land mines, where there are gaps.
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by lost gringo » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:33 am

admin wrote:
lost gringo wrote:
lost gringo wrote:
eeuunikkeiexpat wrote: Keeps the riffraff (especially the shit-for-brains US baby boomer types) away.
Might be a bit late for that as that ship has sailed.:)
Wouldn't it be more interesting to discuss how to keep the riffraff out rather than debate the accuracy of a map.

Chile could build a wall and make the countries with whom we share a border pay for it. :)
It's called the Andes. We fill it in with land mines, where there are gaps.
Good plan. Thinking big, I like it. :D
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by john » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:55 pm

Andres wrote:
john wrote:But I thought Zika was a hoax. :wink:
Not the virus, its supposed impact (dumbshit).
And therefore the supposed justification for more government control.

As usual, you only see what you want to see, and only hear what you want to hear, providing it already complies with your preconceived notions.
Ever the cynic! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Zika: Two billion at risk in Africa and Asia, study says
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-37244577?via=newsletter&

Singapore should brace for long-term battle with Zika: experts
https://www.yahoo.com/news/singapore-br ... 49298.html

Zika vaccine trials begin - but fears remain over virus's impact
https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... ss-impact/
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Re: Useless country ratings strike again

Post by lost gringo » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:34 am

US beekeepers fear for livelihoods as anti-Zika toxin kills 2.5m bees.

‘It kills everything’: conservationist warns over threat to other animals
Regulators: ‘clear and public health crisis’ allows use of Naled chemical'

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... beekeepers
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