The State of the States

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Re: The State of the States

Post by john » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:03 pm

Sigma62Delta wrote:
john wrote:
admin wrote:by the way, I am not an aitheist. I am just a very devout member of the church of "it is just none of your frigen buisness what I believe". Anyone is welcome to join.
Is it non-denominational? :wink:
Sounds like the Church of the Holy Harley Davidson. Anyone is welcome to join as long as you worship the power and might of the Holy Harley... We even have a huge revival called Sturgis..
Sounds like a perfect fit for the Hells Angels. :lol:
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Re: The State of the States

Post by Andres » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:18 am

admin wrote:by the way, I am not an aitheist. I am just a very devout member of the church of "it is none of your frigen buisness what I believe". Anyone is welcome to join.
Like governments, there should be MANY more churchs in the world. Every adult should be the head of their own "church", if they choose to have one.
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Re: The State of the States

Post by Andres » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:30 am

Americans Got $2 Trillion in Benefits from Federal Government in 2013
According to the treasury statement, the federal government totaled $3,454,253,000,000 in outlays for fiscal year 2013.
. . .
This means that benefits, totaling $2,007,611,200,000, amounted to 58.1 percent of the total spending.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/ali ... nment-2013

Any bets on how long it will be until the US govt collapses? When Obomber care fully kicks in, it will only accelerate the decline.
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Re: The State of the States

Post by john » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:43 pm

Andres wrote:Americans Got $2 Trillion in Benefits from Federal Government in 2013
According to the treasury statement, the federal government totaled $3,454,253,000,000 in outlays for fiscal year 2013.
. . .
This means that benefits, totaling $2,007,611,200,000, amounted to 58.1 percent of the total spending.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/ali ... nment-2013

Any bets on how long it will be until the US govt collapses? When Obomber care fully kicks in, it will only accelerate the decline.
Wishful thinking! :)
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Re: The State of the States

Post by Andres » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:58 pm

john wrote:Wishful thinking! :)
No, not really.
Flawed as it is, my wish is for the US government to start complying and enforcing the US Constitution. But that is not likely to happen.

Coincidentally, here is a video I encountered this evening which proves my point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9BQDJZ42w0
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Re: The State of the States

Post by john » Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:51 pm

Andres wrote:
john wrote:Wishful thinking! :)
No, not really.
Flawed as it is, my wish is for the US government to start complying and enforcing the US Constitution. But that is not likely to happen.
Coincidentally, here is a video I encountered this evening which proves my point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9BQDJZ42w0


Would an example of complying with the constitution be the repeal of the 'corporate citizen' legislation? :wink:

There is nothing in the youtube video that proves an unconstitutional act was committed, other than the anecdotal comments of two police officers. BTW, the instigator in the video is a real jerk. :)
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Re: The State of the States

Post by lost gringo » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:03 am

Bienvenidos to the new America

San Jose police say what is believed to be the Bay Area's first police drone will only be used for bomb cases. Critics fear it's the first step toward streamlined spying on residents and gathering information without a warrant.
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... ed-by-sjpd
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Re: The State of the States

Post by Sigma62Delta » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:11 am

lost gringo wrote:Bienvenidos to the new America

San Jose police say what is believed to be the Bay Area's first police drone will only be used for bomb cases. Critics fear it's the first step toward streamlined spying on residents and gathering information without a warrant.
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... ed-by-sjpd
Not a problem.... http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... 83451.html
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Re: The State of the States

Post by lost gringo » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:02 am

Sigma62Delta wrote:
lost gringo wrote:Bienvenidos to the new America

San Jose police say what is believed to be the Bay Area's first police drone will only be used for bomb cases. Critics fear it's the first step toward streamlined spying on residents and gathering information without a warrant.
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts ... ed-by-sjpd
Not a problem.... http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/loc ... 83451.html
better yet
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-c1- ... story.html
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Re: The State of the States

Post by Andres » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:50 am

john wrote:Would an example of complying with the constitution be the repeal of the 'corporate citizen' legislation?
I do not know the content of the "corporate citizen legislation" to say "yes", but in general, corporations are not people, and should not have the rights of people. But there are rights which apply more to limiting the power of government than the relationship between people; those should apply regardless of who the second party is (other than government).
There is nothing in the youtube video that proves an unconstitutional act was committed, other than the anecdotal comments of two police officers. BTW, the instigator in the video is a real jerk. :)
True. But it demonstrates the general attitude of lawlessness which now plagues all levels of government in the USSA, from the cop in the street to the President.
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Re: The State of the States

Post by lost gringo » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:19 pm

"The Pentagon gave nearly half a billion dollars of military gear to local law enforcement last year. Heavily armored tactical vehicles known as MRAPs might cost about $10,000 each to destroy in the field in places like Afghanistan. But it costs up to $50,000 to bring each one back to the States. The police chief of Keene, NH (pop. 23,000) famously justified the acquisition of an armored tactical vehicle to patrol the town's "Pumpkin Festival and other dangerous situations," according to The Economist.http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... last-year/
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Re: The State of the States

Post by Ripsigg » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:50 am

You all are a bunch of expats and not on the ground in the US, you don't know the reality of the terror we face day to day. Our police need drones, tactical vehicles and other tools of war in order to fight the criminal elements. They need to be put in check and our people need to be protected. We need even more security from the real criminals out there like the barbers practicing without a license, cockfight organizers, bad check writers, and beer drinkers.

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