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Re: Ebola watch

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:22 am

Another article to muddy the waters:

http://drsircus.com/medicine/ebola-lie-exposed
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by Ripsigg » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:04 am

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:Another article to muddy the waters:

http://drsircus.com/medicine/ebola-lie-exposed
The book that the author is quoting from is a 37 year old book published shortly after discovery of Ebola. Either the author is an idiot or a fear monger.

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Re: Ebola watch

Post by eeuunikkeiexpat » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:20 am

I believe the fear mongers are the schizoid MSM and our leaders. The article is actually downplaying the threat and saying that most of the terrible infection deaths are not caused by the officially portrayed virus. Again, who knows WTF is going on?

The exponential infection rate still don't match reality as international travel has not been curtailed. The weird behavior by our masters vs. previous hysterics and overreaction over SARS and bird/pig flu is mystifying unless they know something. Even they would not want too many of their slaves dying in an uncontrollable epidemic.

But maybe it is just a case of waiting for more mutations and flu season (cold, dry conditions for aerosol transmission) getting under way in the northern hemisphere.
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Re: the game big pharma plays...

Post by greg~judy » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:21 am

eeuunikkeiexpat wrote:Again, who knows WTF is going on?
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well, g~j have an inkling of WTF is going on...
it's all just a big game, albeit with high <human> stakes...
and the "players" are governments, military, corporate...

here's one <rather damning> take...
on the corporate side of the game...
aka "big pharma" = :twisted: ...

Why is there No Vaccine for Ebola?

The chief executive of the World Health Organization met with representatives of major drug manufacturers in Geneva Thursday to discuss efforts to develop a vaccine for the Ebola virus. The meeting took place as the number of confirmed victims of the outbreak in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea topped 10,000, with nearly 5,000 deaths.

The disease has penetrated a sixth country in West Africa, with a single case reported in Mali. There have been isolated cases in Senegal and Nigeria, but health authorities in both countries claimed to have halted the outbreaks with only a handful of deaths.

A fourth US Ebola victim was reported Thursday, when a doctor at Columbia-Presbyterian Hospital in New York City, who had been working as a volunteer in West Africa for Doctors Without Borders, came down with a high fever and was quarantined for treatment.

According to press reports, the European Union has agreed to finance clinical trials of a vaccine, earmarking $31 million for research. The drug companies were focused on their bottom lines, insisting on limiting liability for any potential damage if a vaccine is rushed into production with less than normal testing.

Andrew Witty, CEO of GlaxoSmithKline, told the BBC, “I think it is reasonable that there should be some level of indemnification because the vaccine is essentially being used in an emergency situation before we’ve all had the chance to confirm” that it is safe to use.

Other top executives in attendance included Charles Link, the CEO of Iowa-based NewLink Genetics, and Paul Stoffels, chief scientific officer and worldwide chairman of Johnson & Johnson. Both companies have vaccines in development.

The WHO said Tuesday that two vaccines would be tested in large-scale studies in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, the three countries that are the focus of the epidemic, beginning in January. One was developed by the US National Institutes of Health and GlaxoSmithKline, the other by the Public Health Agency of Canada and NewLink.

The process is slow compared to the speed of propagation of the disease, with preliminary results likely by the end of 2015.

Three other vaccines will begin safety testing for possible side effects in the first quarter of 2015, using healthy volunteers outside the Ebola zone.

These discussions are overshadowed by two US press reports that demonstrate the role of the drug companies in blocking any progress on stopping Ebola for the past 15 years because they saw no way to make a profit from a vaccine for a disease that killed only poor African villagers.

The New York Times article was published October 24 under the headline, “Ebola Vaccine, Ready for Test, Sat on the Shelf.” It reported that Canadian and US scientists several years ago developed a vaccine that was 100 percent effective in protecting monkeys from Ebola. “The researchers said tests in people might start within two years, and a product could potentially be ready for licensing by 2010 or 2011,” the Times said.

“It never happened. The vaccine sat on a shelf. Only now is it undergoing the most basic safety tests in humans with nearly 5,000 people dead from Ebola and an epidemic raging out of control in West Africa.”


The article noted that the development of the vaccine to the monkey-trial stage cost only a modest amount, but comprehensive trials of effectiveness and safety in humans, plus the development of manufacturing techniques to produce sizeable quantities of vaccine, would cost up to $1.5 billion.

“Most drug companies have resisted spending the enormous sums needed to develop products useful mostly to countries with little ability to pay,” the Times continued.

The vaccine in question was patented by the Canadian Public Health Agency and is now being developed for human use by NewLink Genetics.

Five days before, on October 19, the Wall Street Journal published an equally devastating indictment of the pharmaceutical industry, profiling the work of Dr. Nancy J. Sullivan at NIH, who worked on the other most-promising vaccine candidate, now being brought to market by GlaxoSmithKline.

Sullivan began working on Ebola in 1997, after a 1995 outbreak in Zaire, and by late 1998 had developed a vaccine candidate that the Centers for Disease Control tested on monkeys, confirming 100 percent success by July 1999. According to the Journal account, “Unvaccinated monkeys became sick and died within about a week. The four vaccinated monkeys had no detectable virus—something science had never before accomplished.”

The results were published in the prestigious journal Nature in 2000. But the pharmaceutical industry was not interested in developing an Ebola vaccine. The Journal account explains why: “The recently retired chief of vaccines at Merck & Co. said ‘there’s no market for this.’ The Wall Street Journal wrote of ‘the relatively tiny risk posed by Ebola.’”

These accounts demonstrate that there is no Ebola vaccine today, even though the virus has been analyzed systematically for several decades and promising initial steps were taken in government research laboratories, because the private drug monopolies that control the development and manufacture of vaccines did not find it profitable.

This underscores the fact that the 5,000 deaths from Ebola in West Africa were completely avoidable. The blood is on the hands of Merck, Pfizer, Glaxo and the other multinational companies which have a vampire-like grip on the production of all forms of medication vital for public health care.

The various governments that act as agents of the drug companies—in the US, Britain, Germany and other imperialist countries—are equally culpable.


Meanwhile, the impact of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa is so dire that public health measures alone may prove insufficient to stamp it out. The WHO warned Tuesday that 19,000 doctors and nurses would be needed by December 1 in the region, compared to less than a thousand today, along with 500 burial teams, compared to only 50 now in operation.

Dr. Anthony Fauci of the NIH warned that a vaccine may prove to be the only viable means of fighting the Ebola outbreak. Tragically, that would mean millions of deaths during the period that the long-delayed vaccine is developed into a usable medication capable of mass production.
and btw...
US Patent Application for Ebola Virus – Five Years Ago Today

Below is a screenshot depicting the US government’s application for the Ebola Bundibugyo (EboBun) virus.

PATENT – Human Ebola Virus Species and Compositions and Methods Thereof – US 20120251502 A1 – ABSTRACT: Compositions and methods including and related to the Ebola Bundibugyo virus (EboBun) are provided…Inventive methods are directed to detection and treatment of EboBun infection.

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anyway --- whatever --- please...
we must all remain "afraid"...
<shouldn't we...???>

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Re: Ebola watch

Post by greg~judy » Tue Oct 28, 2014 12:36 am

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oh, and btw...
Centers for Disease Control (CDC) Finally Admits that Ebola Can Float through the Air … 3 Feet
Frontline Healthcare Workers Must Protect Themselves from Aerosol Transmission of Ebola


We’ve noted for some time that Ebola can be spread by aerosols to frontline healthcare workers.

The CDC is finally admitting this fact.

The CDC put out a new poster stating:

Droplet spread happens when germs traveling inside droplets that are coughed or sneezed from a sick person enter the eyes, nose, or mouth of another person. Droplets travel short distances, less than 3 feet (1 meter) from one person to another.

A person might also get infected by touching a surface or object that has germs on it and then touching their mouth or nose.

Clean and disinfect commonly touched surfaces like doorknobs, faucet handles, and toys, since the Ebola virus may live on surfaces for up to several hours.


Meryl Nass, M.D. – a board-certified internist and a biological warfare epidemiologist and expert in anthrax - comments:

CDC says it doesn’t travel farther than 3 feet. Well, at least CDC is starting to move the narrative. Maybe tomorrow it will be 5 feet. Then 10. Maybe next month they will tell us why all the victims’ possessions are being incinerated and apartments fumigated.

Just remember: historically, Ebola spread fast in healthcare facilities.


And see this.

Dr. Nass previously argued that the CDC has been lying about aerosol transmission of Ebola, as its own 2009 publication admitted that Ebola:

pose[s] a high individual risk of aerosol-transmitted laboratory infections and life-threatening disease that is frequently fatal, for which there are no vaccines or treatments…
anyway --- whatever --- please...
we must all remain "afraid"...
<shouldn't we...???>
:|
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by admin » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:26 am

well, then there is the sexually transmitted angle on all this. Seems that the virus stays active in men for months after initial infection.
http://miamitimesonline.com/news/2014/o ... men-virus/

even more spooky, was an article talking to a documentary film maker that said the brothels in the infected countries were filled with westerners, even after the ebola outbreak was well known to be out of control. I also read that there was some group offering some sort of ebola insurance to prostitutes in those countries. If you look at the HIV infection rates in Africa, you can get an idea of what that means. HIV and ebola, as I understand, are close viral cousins. Those two, getting to dance together in lots of human hosts, might be the scariest thing of all.

Yet, we are told, no worries, after the magic 21 days, everything will be fine.

My pet theory, that explains why there was an initial outbreak, that seemed to die down in those countries, then come back with a vengeance, was exactly because of the sexually transmitted angel.

The common theme, to all the scew-ups so far, by all the NGO's and governments, is the under estimation of the virus.
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by john » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:19 pm

admin wrote:
... HIV and ebola, as I understand, are close viral cousins. Those two, getting to dance together in lots of human hosts, might be the scariest thing of all.
How Ebola Is (and Is Not) Like HIV/AIDS

http://www.healthline.com/health-news/h ... s-101414#1
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by admin » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:36 pm

yea, that article pretty much supported the hypothesis, without really providing any scientific details.

The reason I say close cousin, was based on at least the antidotial evidence provided by one of the previous articles regarding the doctor that seems to have had some luck treating ebola with aids retrovirus drugs that are already widely in use in the ebola effected countries.

Which if true would be good news in a sense. it would seem that if you wanted to quickly verify (or at least add more evidence) to his results, they would just need to trackdown all the people that are taking that drug for treating HIV / aids in liberia and other ebola countries and statistically compare that to the number of people in the larger population to see how many have been infected with and / or have died of ebola. I am sure there is a whole lot more to be learned also from that population, but at least would be a relatively cheap thing to check. It would be rather sadly ironic, to find out a large portion of the population has been immune or at least less effected by ebola simply because they have HIV and were taking those drugs.

Anyway, never mind. That would be too practical, cheap, and well not make for very good headlines in the developed countries that are more concerned with incubation period for mass hysteria before the next election and round of budget allocations rather than ebola or HIV.
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by john » Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:20 pm

admin wrote: Anyway, never mind. That would be too practical, cheap, and well not make for very good headlines in the developed countries that are more concerned with incubation period for mass hysteria before the next election and round of budget allocations rather than ebola or HIV.
Yes, there's nothing like politically created hysteria and fear-mongering to stir up the electorate. :roll:

Cuomo Softens Tone in Outline of Ebola Plan Amid Criticism

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/29/nyreg ... .html?_r=0
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by admin » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:07 pm

hey, perhaps the republicans will get to try out those FEMA camps. Put the Generals in charge, and forget what the CDC says. We are out of war. We need another "war" on something, anything, even something we can't "fight". And my God, of course watch out should ebola make it to central america, because of course the hordes of barbarians would stream across the southern boarder to try and get in. Never mind most people with ebola would be dead by the time they made it overland from central america (took me 3 months one time, and two and half weeks another, with a U.S. passport). Of course don't let reality get in the way of a good political theater.
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by admin » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:36 pm

here is the most alarmist, un-alarmist article I think I have read.
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/ebola-endemic/
and the orginal essay it is based on. essentially our lack of imagination in talking about what ebola could be.
http://psandman.com/col/Ebola-3.htm
Given the neighborhood we are in, I think we get to imagine it a little closer to what they describe, or at least put it in the bigger picture as a global threat.
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Re: Ebola watch

Post by Andres » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:56 pm

admin wrote:We are out of war. We need another "war" on something, anything, even something we can't "fight".
The USSA has no shortage of wars.
But why not add another one to scare the masses, even if (as you say) that can't really be "fought".
After all, the "war on poverty" created more poverty.
The "war on drugs" creates more drug use.
The "war on terrorism" creates more terrorism and terrorists.
So, with their success (at acquiring more power with each war), why not have another one?
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