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Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:04 am
by wiscondinavian
admin wrote:The question is are you leaving for ever, leaving for a few years, or just keeping your options open?

All very different ways of leaving Chile, or anywhere else for that matter. I can not even count the number of times I have left storage facilities full of stuff around the World, with a "I'll be back for that someday". I never made it back. After a while I learned to just give it all away. Sometimes trying to sell or move crap is more hassle than it is worth.

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I kind of did that in the US. I gave away all of my furniture and whatnot, since it was all goodwill/stuff off of the street, but I left thinking "I'll be back in 6 months, 1 year max, so I"ll leave my final downsizing of everything for then."

I ended up not getting back for about 20 months... Not the biggest deal, but my mommy wanted more storage space for her shoes and purses... she has replaced us all... :p

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:38 am
by zer0nz
I left my stuff with my parents mainly because it wasnt worth selling, Clothes Dryer, microwave, native NZ wood butchers block (won't sell it, dad made it for me), and a dinner set!, thats it, rest is gone!

If i was to leave chile, right now i would probably take my tv as excess luggage mainly because of what i would sell it for then have to rebuy it for would be more more of a loss then the luggage charge (46" tv, but it is slim and only about 12kg and you pay by weight) !, Maybe the surround sound system also, wifi routers (they don't take up much space) a cool set of coloured drinking glasses (Bout the only sentimental thing i have here, long story) the rest goes bye bye Clothes can be donated and buy new at home made for my body shape and size! and at a reasonable price, i remember black pants for work costing $30 at home and half decent quality! as opposed to $40,000 and half %&/

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:26 am
by zer0nz
Any recomendations on selling a car privately for a fast sale but not at a low price?

What time frames have people found in selling cars privately?

What is the expected amount to drop off the list price when negotiating final price?

How does one accept payment for a car when selling to avoid being ripped off?

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:49 am
by Andres
zer0nz wrote:Any recomendations on selling a car privately for a fast sale but not at a low price?
What time frames have people found in selling cars privately?
What is the expected amount to drop off the list price when negotiating final price?
How does one accept payment for a car when selling to avoid being ripped off?
Three months ago:
Ten contacts within an hour of putting an advert on yapo; six said they would visit; five showed up.
The first "buyer", did not come at the agreed time to go to the civil registry.
The backup successful buyer followed through, within 48 hours of the yapo advert. (paying more than the first "buyer")
Advertised price of about CLP2.400.000; reduced about CLP300.000 in negotiations.
Before advertising, a car yard representative looked at the car but tried to get it at too low a price.

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:14 pm
by zer0nz
Andres wrote:
zer0nz wrote:Any recomendations on selling a car privately for a fast sale but not at a low price?
What time frames have people found in selling cars privately?
What is the expected amount to drop off the list price when negotiating final price?
How does one accept payment for a car when selling to avoid being ripped off?
Three months ago:
Ten contacts within an hour of putting an advert on yapo; six said they would visit; five showed up.
The first "buyer", did not come at the agreed time to go to the civil registry.
The backup successful buyer followed through, within 48 hours of the yapo advert. (paying more than the first "buyer")
Advertised price of about CLP2.400.000; reduced about CLP300.000 in negotiations.
Before advertising, a car yard representative looked at the car but tried to get it at too low a price.

Thanks, this is what i want!

how did they pay? did they take the car after the registro civil bit?

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:26 pm
by Andres
zer0nz wrote:Thanks, this is what i want!
how did they pay? did they take the car after the registro civil bit?
With the car owner present, he paid the car's owner via bank transfer immediately before going to the notary with the car's owner. He got the keys and the car immediately after the notary process was complete.
(Civil registries were on strike.) Seller does NOT receive anything from the civil registry, you have a copy of the completed notary documents to prove transfer.

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:36 pm
by zer0nz
Andres wrote:
zer0nz wrote:Thanks, this is what i want!
how did they pay? did they take the car after the registro civil bit?
With the car owner present, he paid the car's owner via bank transfer immediately before going to the notary with the car's owner. He got the keys and the car immediately after the notary process was complete.
(Civil registries were on strike.) Seller does NOT receive anything from the civil registry, you have a copy of the completed notary documents to prove transfer.
ah thanks!,

mmm, how does one get past the $5.000.000 daily transfer limit? cash/transfer combo? anyone know if vale vistas are common for this??

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:41 pm
by Southerner
maybe this doesn't apply to zer0nz but I always wondered what would happen to or how could a person withdraw their AFP or APV retirement money if they left Chile permanently...

just curious.

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:13 pm
by zer0nz
Southerner wrote:maybe this doesn't apply to zer0nz but I always wondered what would happen to or how could a person withdraw their AFP or APV retirement money if they left Chile permanently...

just curious.

That on is well documented, you need a Degree because uneducated are not allowed to make that choice by themselves

and you need to have a pension fund that meats there standards somewhere else in the world

and you need to pay a #$%&/ of tax on it when you withdraw it.

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:23 pm
by bearshapedsphere
Seguro de cesantía I have done (though I am still in Chile, I left one job, and cashed that one out).

Bring your signed and notarized finiquito (finalizing document that closes your contract) to the Seguro de Cesantia desk at any AFP. Bring your carnet and the finiquito. They will issue you a piece of paper that says how much money should be released to you, and when. You bring this paper to Servipag and they pay you out. Mine came in a couple of installments, every month.

I have also done it for a friend.

She did everything up to "piece of paper," but then ran out of time. She went to a notary, told them that she needed papers to assign me the "poder," so I could pick up the money for her on the assigned date. She needed my name, RUT, and maybe my address.

The poder was for me to go to a particular AFP office and execute the forms, to get the piece of paper for the last payment, and they made me pick specific a Servipag to go to, so they could authorize them giving me the money, and I had to do that in the same day, bring carnet, etc.

They gave me the cash, which I kept, and I just deposited money in her US account from my US account at an agreed-upon exchange rate.

hth!

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:37 pm
by zer0nz
bearshapedsphere wrote:Seguro de cesantía I have done (though I am still in Chile, I left one job, and cashed that one out).

Bring your signed and notarized finiquito (finalizing document that closes your contract) to the Seguro de Cesantia desk at any AFP. Bring your carnet and the finiquito. They will issue you a piece of paper that says how much money should be released to you, and when. You bring this paper to Servipag and they pay you out. Mine came in a couple of installments, every month.

I have also done it for a friend.

She did everything up to "piece of paper," but then ran out of time. She went to a notary, told them that she needed papers to assign me the "poder," so I could pick up the money for her on the assigned date. She needed my name, RUT, and maybe my address.

The poder was for me to go to a particular AFP office and execute the forms, to get the piece of paper for the last payment, and they made me pick specific a Servipag to go to, so they could authorize them giving me the money, and I had to do that in the same day, bring carnet, etc.

They gave me the cash, which I kept, and I just deposited money in her US account from my US account at an agreed-upon exchange rate.

hth!
Cool, i know there are two ways to do it, if you want a lump sum you get smaller payments... if you you on mind waiting its a bigger amount over a number of months but need to leave someone with the poder!

Re: Leaving Chile

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 6:56 pm
by paladin
zer0nz wrote:
Andres wrote:
zer0nz wrote:Thanks, this is what i want!
how did they pay? did they take the car after the registro civil bit?
With the car owner present, he paid the car's owner via bank transfer immediately before going to the notary with the car's owner. He got the keys and the car immediately after the notary process was complete.
(Civil registries were on strike.) Seller does NOT receive anything from the civil registry, you have a copy of the completed notary documents to prove transfer.
ah thanks!,

mmm, how does one get past the $5.000.000 daily transfer limit? cash/transfer combo? anyone know if vale vistas are common for this??
The couple of times I've done it, I just got them to bring a vale vista along. Simple, guaranteed and passed over to me when we signed in the notary